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God is not real, never has been, and never will be.
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2020-06-30 at 6:04 PM UTC
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2020-06-30 at 6:06 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson You're not getting it…their ability to make a choice, either good or bad was designed that way by god…he gave them the ability to make bad decisions…they simply went by their "programming" and used that design feature.
If you design a product..again lets use a car as an example…and think, "you know i'm going to design the brakes so they only work positively 50% of the time and the other 50% they will catastrophically fail"…you are a bad designer…and any deaths or injuries resulting from the DESIGN will be on your hands…NOT the cars.
God designed Adam and Eve with an innate flaw that any idiot with at least 4 brain cells would see would end badly. Again 1st gen and 2nd gen models FAILED as the results were negative not positive.
Any designer worth his salt would see the flaw is the parameters he set for "free will" and quickly figure out that the negative aspects of it far outweight the positive aspects and fix it…he didn't.
A car designer would fix the brakes to always work..and remove the "only 50% of the time" feature.
There is absolutely no good reason to have a feature that causes catastrophic failure, injury, loss of life etc…in any device…except a weapon which is designed for those things.
The conclusion is either god is just a twat that likes to see his designs kill and maim and then try to pass the blame onto said design…OR he designed it as a weapon in the first place to destroy each other and any other life that might happen along.
In short he would be fired as chief designer of any company.
You're just grasping at straws now. I've properly and logically and sensibly explained our current situation, as it relates to the Creator and his purpose for mankind, but you apparently are already determined to ignore the truth at any cost. Not much anyone can do for you there. Just know that just because you do not accept the truth does not mean the truth is not there, it merely means you choose to ignore it. -
2020-06-30 at 6:11 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL You're just grasping at straws now. I've properly and logically and sensibly explained our current situation, as it relates to the Creator and his purpose for mankind, but you apparently are already determined to ignore the truth at any cost. Not much anyone can do for you there. Just know that just because you do not accept the truth does not mean the truth is not there, it merely means you choose to ignore it.
Well no you haven't...you made an assumption of gods intent based on your opinion, I demonstrated how a designer is responsible for his design and any flaws within that design.
Properly and logically the designer is responsible for negative results of using that design..not the design itself!
Again there is zero reason to create a feature that causes, pain, death and misery...ZERO (again except in the case of a weapon).
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2020-06-30 at 6:13 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Well no you haven't…you made an assumption of gods intent based on your opinion, I demonstrated how a designer is responsible for his design and any flaws within that design.
Properly and logically the designer is responsible for negative results of using that design..not the design itself!
Again there is zero reason to create a feature that causes, pain, death and misery…ZERO (again except in the case of a weapon).
Not sure how you see that as "grasping at straws".
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2020-06-30 at 6:15 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL God didn't create the future in question, man did.
God created man...it follows as the product designer he is responsible for the actions of the product. It's also he responsible to make any revisions necessary to fix the negative behavior of that device and assume the blame for a poor design giving negative results.
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2020-06-30 at 6:16 PM UTC
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2020-06-30 at 6:17 PM UTC
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2020-06-30 at 6:20 PM UTCSo...lets say for arguments sake Spectral man IS responsible for his actions and God has washed his hands of any responsibility....then man as the responsible party decides what is right or wrong, not the designer who has released himself from guilt/involvement/responsibility.
...and yet god expects man to follow his rules and commandants and be judged by him at the end of time...fucking lol what a self righteous twat he is.
"Oh you're on your own, you decide what is right or wrong...here's a guide book..I'm having nothing more to do with you...until the end of time when I'll throw you twats into a fiery pit if you don't do as I say in the book"
"You have free will, but only if you do what I command and expect you can then go to the nice place"
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2020-06-30 at 6:22 PM UTC
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2020-06-30 at 6:26 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson So…lets say for arguments sake Spectral man IS responsible for his actions and God has washed his hands of any responsibility….then man as the responsible party decides what is right or wrong, not the designer who has released himself from guilt/involvement/responsibility.
…and yet god expects man to follow his rules and commandants and be judged by him at the end of time…fucking lol what a self righteous twat he is.
"Oh you're on your own, you decide what is right or wrong…here's a guide book..I'm having nothing more to do with you…until the end of time when I'll throw you twats into a fiery pit if you don't do as I say in the book"
"You have free will, but only if you do what I command and expect you can then go to the nice place"
Fucking lol.
theres nothing that says god wanted us to have an easy life.
in all religion worshippers are asked to endure hardship and struggles to affirm their faiths to their respective creators.
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2020-06-30 at 6:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson yes someone who stole 80k worth of furniture and paintings from the whitehouse and had to return them…a common thief, who lied about running across a runaway dodging bullets, someone who caused Americans to be killed in Benghazi through her incompetence, who breached protocol with her private email server and then deleted 30k of the messages, someone who only got her position as Secretary of State through nepotism. etc etc
Yup, that one.
lolol
Again, no convictions unlike Trump. -
2020-06-30 at 6:27 PM UTCInnocent until proven guilty unless they're a Democrat!
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2020-06-30 at 6:27 PM UTC
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2020-06-30 at 6:30 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace
Again, no convictions unlike Trump.
What was trump convicted of?
Also you do understand that simply because you are not convicted of something doesn't mean you are innocent of it right?
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2020-06-30 at 6:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson What was trump convicted of?
Also you do understand that simply because you are not convicted of something doesn't mean you are innocent of it right?
I guess you think OJ was innocent of killing his wife and that other dude huh…fucking lol
OJ was found guilty of all charges you retard.
https://www.axios.com/trump-associates-convicted-mueller-investigations-206295a1-5abc-4573-be25-4da19d9adcc9.html
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2020-06-30 at 6:35 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson You're not getting it still.
No, it's you who is not "getting" the concept of free will. Within the realm of free will, evil is always a possibility, and through evil, sin entered into the world. Free will includes the ability to do wrong and cause death and destruction. But this scenario will only last for a short time longer, and then free will be on the side of right and good, forever, and the results of that good will be just as manifest. Humans write their own destiny. -
2020-06-30 at 6:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL No, it's you who is not "getting" the concept of free will. Within the realm of free will, evil is always a possibility, and through evil, sin entered into the world. Free will includes the ability to do wrong and cause death and destruction. But this scenario will only last for a short time longer, and then free will be on the side of right and good, forever, and the results of that good will be just as manifest. Humans write their own destiny.
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2020-06-30 at 6:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL No, it's you who is not "getting" the concept of free will. Within the realm of free will, evil is always a possibility, and through evil, sin entered into the world. Free will includes the ability to do wrong and cause death and destruction. But this scenario will only last for a short time longer, and then free will be on the side of right and good, forever, and the results of that good will be just as manifest. Humans write their own destiny.
Did God know they were gonna eat the fruit? Yes or no? -
2020-06-30 at 6:40 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace OJ was found guilty of all charges you retard.
WTF...lolololhttps://www.axios.com/trump-associates-convicted-mueller-investigations-206295a1-5abc-4573-be25-4da19d9adcc9.html
Trump was convicted of abuse of power and obstruction of Congress.
WTF...lolol no he wasn't...learn the difference between a charge and a conviction.
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2020-06-30 at 6:40 PM UTC
