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  1. Originally posted by -SpectraL None of the original manuscripts exist, because of the degradation and decomposition of the paper they were written on. But we have copies, and those copies have been authenticated.

    See there is the problem...how do you authenticate something that doesn't exist?

    The prophesy I made in 1993 of 911 happening no longer exists either but it's been authenticated by idiots...I mean followers who believe me...
  2. -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson See there is the problem…how do you authenticate something that doesn't exist?

    The prophesy I made in 1993 of 911 happening no longer exists either but it's been authenticated by idiots…I mean followers who believe me…

    That would be true, if there still weren't prophecies in it which are being fulfilled this very day. How can someone change the bible and put something in there which actually happens tomorrow? How did they know? You see, your "logic" doesn't stand up to the test.
  3. Originally posted by -SpectraL That would be true, if there still weren't prophecies in it which are being fulfilled this very day. How can someone change the bible and put something in there which actually happens tomorrow? How did they know? You see, your "logic" doesn't stand up to the test.

    So name a couple of ones that happened recently that the bible defined the exact place/name and event...skip the flowery language and wall of text, just cite 2 examples as detailed above.
  4. -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson So name a couple of ones that happened recently that the bible defined the exact place/name and event…skip the flowery language and wall of text, just cite 2 examples as detailed above.

    "But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God--having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people. They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these teachers oppose the truth. They are men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone."

    ~ 2 Timothy (Chapter 3)

    "You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains."

    ~ Matthew (Chapter 24)
  5. Um neither of those cited exact times places names or people...they are just generic warnings that every fake fortune teller tells.

    Fucking lol

    Again drop the flowery language...copy/paste cite actual world events that were EXACTLY prophesized by the bible including names/places/locations/dates.
  6. "You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains."

    Fucking lol! what a prophet...wars and earth quakes are gonna happen...no fucking shit...I prophsize they will in the next 100yrs too.
  7. Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson (8) The prophet Moses foretold (with some additions by Jeremiah and Jesus) that the ancient jedi nation would be conquered twice and that the people would be carried off as slaves each time, first by the Babylonians (for a period of 70 years), and then by a fourth world kingdom (which we know as Rome). The second conqueror, Moses said, would take the jedis captive to Egypt in ships, selling them or giving them away as slaves to all parts of the world. Both of these predictions were fulfilled to the letter, the first in 607 BC and the second in AD 70.

    Can you cite Moses original writing of this?…not what the bible recounts AFTER the fact.

    It's worthless without the actual original document…any idiot can say anything after the fact.

    "Yeah I prophesized 911 would happen back in 1993…but I'm just telling you now in 2002.

    ETA: and please stop citing the bible as the source of proof for …the bible…fucking lol

    http://www.israelite.net/biblicalarchaeology.pdf
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  8. Originally posted by vindicktive vinny http://www.israelite.net/biblicalarchaeology.pdf

    Yeah..another wall of text...funny how no one can give a simple concise response that backs up their "argument".
  9. Octavian motherfucker
    What happened to that santa claus looking guy with shades from DH. He use to amuse me with his bible thumping scripture.
  10. -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Um neither of those cited exact times places names or people…they are just generic warnings that every fake fortune teller tells.

    Fucking lol

    Again drop the flowery language...copy/paste cite actual world events that were EXACTLY prophesized by the bible including names/places/locations/dates.

    Daniel's prophecy from the Creator deals with specifically-named earthly forces and rulers and specific years events which would take place in relation to them, in a modern scenario. I suggest you study that and work out what represents what and what years the events would take place.

    The widely held view that the book of Daniel is largely fictional rests mainly on the modern philosophical assumption that long-range predictive prophecy is impossible. Therefore all fulfilled predictions in Daniel, it is claimed, had to have been composed no earlier than the Maccabean period (second century b.c.), after the fulfillment had taken place. But objective evidence excludes this hypothesis on several counts:

    To avoid fulfillment of long-range predictive prophecy in the book, the adherents of the late-date view usually maintain that the four empires of chs. 2 and 7 are Babylon, Media, Persia and Greece. But in the mind of the author, "the Medes and Persians" (5:28;;) together constituted the second in the series of four kingdoms (2:32-43; see note there). Thus it becomes clear that the four empires are the Babylonian, Medo-Persian, Greek and Roman.

    The language itself argues for a date earlier than the second century. Linguistic evidence from the Dead Sea Scrolls (which furnish authentic samples of Hebrew and Aramaic writing from the third and second centuries b.c.; see essay, p. 1939) demonstrates that the Hebrew and Aramaic chapters of Daniel must have been composed centuries earlier. Furthermore, as recently demonstrated, the Persian and Greek words in Daniel do not require a late date. Some of the technical terms appearing in ch. 3 were already so obsolete by the second century b.c. that translators of the Septuagint (the pre-Christian Greek translation of the OT) translated them incorrectly.

    Several of the fulfillment of prophecies in Daniel could not have taken place by the second century anyway, so the prophetic element cannot be dismissed. The symbolism connected with the fourth kingdom makes it unmistakably predictive of the Roman empire (2:33;7:7,19), which did not take control of Syro-Palestine until 63 b.c. Also, a plausible interpretation of the prophecy concerning the coming of "the Anointed One, the ruler," approximately 483 years after "the issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem" (9:25;9:25-27), works out to the time of Jesus' ministry.

    Objective evidence, therefore, appears to exclude the late-date hypothesis and indicates that there is insufficient reason to deny Daniel's authorship.
  11. Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson So name a couple of ones that happened recently that the bible defined the exact place/name and event…skip the flowery language and wall of text, just cite 2 examples as detailed above.

    In case you missed it...again 2 examples that cite actual times/dates/people/places/events...so far you haven't.

    "wars and earthquakes will happen"...isn't a prophecy.
  12. -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Yeah..another wall of text…funny how no one can give a simple concise response that backs up their "argument".

    Sounds like you are intent on not investigating anything. He just gave you all the proof you need on a silver platter, and all you could do is turn your nose up at it.
  13. Originally posted by -SpectraL Sounds like you are intent on not investigating anything. He just gave you all the proof you need on a silver platter, and all you could do is turn your nose up at it.

    See above...sounds like you can't actually back up what you claimed...

    "wars and earthquakes" does not equal "Exact name/place/time/date/event".

    I predict it's going to be dark at 2am here in Houston tonight...bow down before a prophet of god.
  14. -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson "wars and earthquakes will happen"…isn't a prophecy.

    Of course it is, to anyone who hasn't put a blindfold on and stuck their fingers in their ears. At no other time in human history has there been as many earthquakes and wars as there is today, in modern times.
  15. Originally posted by -SpectraL Of course it is, to anyone how hasn't put a blindfold on and stuck their fingers in their ears. At no other time in human history has there been as many earthquakes and wars as there is today, in modern times.

    Here is an example of who when challenged the nuts try to change the narrative.

    1. the number of Earthquakes and wars is irrelevant to the request for excact time/date/event/names. It's not a singular event...it's not a prophecy.

    2. The "Prophecy says NOTHING about the year/time period and it says nothing about the number of such events

    "You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains." "

    ^^ where does it say anything about "At no other time in human history has there been as many earthquakes and wars as there is today, in modern times."



    Again...lets make it even easier

    cite ONE prophesy that NAMES THE TIME/EVENT/PLACE/PEOPLE involved in a modern date event that the bible prophesized..."Oh well shits gonna happen"...isn't such a citation request.

    An example would be "On Sept 11th 2001 2 planes will fly into the world trade center"...THAT would be a prophecy if actually proven to have been given before the event (and obviously not by the dudes who did it).
  16. Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson In case you missed it…again 2 examples that cite actual times/dates/people/places/events…so far you haven't.

    "wars and earthquakes will happen"…isn't a prophecy.

    Originally posted by benny vader ''And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.''



    ''And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.''



    ''And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.''

    ''And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.''

    ''And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.''

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  17. Non sequitur...didn't cite anything but more flowery nonsense, no names/places/events/dates.

    I think it's fair to say your claims have been destroyed when you can't cite one actual example of what you claim/claimed.
  18. -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Non sequitur…didn't cite anything but more flowery nonsense, no names/places/events/dates.

    EVERYTHING is "flowery" to your kind. Nothing would satisfy you, because you've already set out to deny everything. You are determined.
  19. Originally posted by -SpectraL EVERYTHING is "flowery" to your kind. Nothing would satisfy you, because you've already set out to deny everything. You are determined.

    Go ahead and quit with the attempted derailment. You made the claim, you back it up with ONE example. TIME/EVENT/PLACE/PEOPLE involved.

    A generic "shits gonna happen" doesn't qualify.

    Your claim

    " Years and events, and even names, are prophesied thousands of years in advance with deadly accuracy. "
  20. Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Non sequitur…didn't cite anything but more flowery nonsense, no names/places/events/dates.

    I think it's fair to say your claims have been destroyed when you can't cite one actual example of what you claim/claimed.

    the bible already predickted cruise missile, apache gunship, and nuclear explosion.
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