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Poll: Do you believe in God
- Yes because I'm fucking retarded and my priest uncle raped me as a child
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No because I am an enlightened individual and I know mythology is just fiction
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God is not real, never has been, and never will be.
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2020-06-30 at 5:16 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Again according to who?
If he had created humans as automatons then THAT would have been the point of being human…it's only the point presently because this is how he created them, flawed…none of which has anything to do with who carries the blame when shit goes wrong.
Again if you design something with a flaw that could cause harm to others…YOU as the designer are responsible, not the thing itself.
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2020-06-30 at 5:18 PM UTC
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2020-06-30 at 5:19 PM UTC
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2020-06-30 at 5:22 PM UTCIt was apparent god's creation failed during the 1st revision of the product! Getting cast out of Eden, then the rev2 version killed his brother.
Clearly any reasonable creator would straight away see his stupid idea of "free will" wasn't working and fix/remove it...but he didn't...
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2020-06-30 at 5:32 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Right..but who created the flawed Adam and Eve?
The whole "go to the source" is getting passed you.
Adam and Eve weren't flawed. They were a perfect human couple with free will. They could choose to do bad, or they could choose to do good, and they had everything they need supplied to them to be able to make that decision. They chose bad. The blame is wholly on their shoulders, not God's. -
2020-06-30 at 5:41 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson So praying is a waste of time then?
You just have to do it one time.
"Heavenly Father, since you're all-knowing, you know everything that I would ever want to pray for throughout my life, so let's just save us both the time and let this prayer be the only one I ever need to make. I love you and please forgive me for all my sins, past present and future. Thank you. In Jesus' name, Amen." -
2020-06-30 at 5:48 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL Adam and Eve weren't flawed. They were a perfect human couple with free will. They could choose to do bad, or they could choose to do good, and they had everything they need supplied to them to be able to make that decision. They chose bad. The blame is wholly on their shoulders, not God's.
You're not getting it...their ability to make a choice, either good or bad was designed that way by god...he gave them the ability to make bad decisions...they simply went by their "programming" and used that design feature.
If you design a product..again lets use a car as an example...and think, "you know i'm going to design the brakes so they only work positively 50% of the time and the other 50% they will catastrophically fail"...you are a bad designer...and any deaths or injuries resulting from the DESIGN will be on your hands...NOT the cars.
God designed Adam and Eve with an innate flaw that any idiot with at least 4 brain cells would see would end badly. Again 1st gen and 2nd gen models FAILED as the results were negative not positive.
Any designer worth his salt would see the flaw is the parameters he set for "free will" and quickly figure out that the negative aspects of it far outweight the positive aspects and fix it...he didn't.
A car designer would fix the brakes to always work..and remove the "only 50% of the time" feature.
There is absolutely no good reason to have a feature that causes catastrophic failure, injury, loss of life etc...in any device...except a weapon which is designed for those things.
The conclusion is either god is just a twat that likes to see his designs kill and maim and then try to pass the blame onto said design...OR he designed it as a weapon in the first place to destroy each other and any other life that might happen along.
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2020-06-30 at 5:50 PM UTC^^
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2020-06-30 at 5:55 PM UTC
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2020-06-30 at 5:56 PM UTCGod: "Ok, even though I already know you're gonna do it, dont do it, ok?"
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"GOD DAMN IT. I told you NOT TO. Ugh. Now I have to put a babby me into a lady and do all this weird complicated shit so that some of you dont burn forever in the hell that doesn't even exist yet." *sighhh* -
2020-06-30 at 5:56 PM UTC
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2020-06-30 at 5:57 PM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ God: "Ok, even though I already know you're gonna do it, dont do it, ok?"
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"GOD DAMN IT. I told you NOT TO. Ugh. Now I have to put a babby me into a lady and do all this weird complicated shit so that some of you dont burn forever in the hell that doesn't even exist yet." *sighhh*
Exactly..the boy gets it. -
2020-06-30 at 5:58 PM UTC
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