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2017-02-26 at 3:38 AM UTC
Originally posted by SCronaldo_J_Trump Infinity shock I do not approve of your homosexual lifestyle but you really seem to know your shit about guns. What should I buy for my first firearm?. I can probably only get hunting stuff.
1891/30 mosin nagant
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2017-02-27 at 10:36 PM UTC
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2017-02-27 at 10:46 PM UTC
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2017-02-27 at 11:45 PM UTC
Originally posted by snab_snib or if not using the rest of your budget means that you simply don't get to spend that money and the funds are distributed often haphazardly and with little oversight.
I think you mean the poor design was a result of poor R&D funding management...and if so, yes. bean counters in todays corporate world have entirely too much influence. if it were up to me, every single one would be drawn...quartered...and fed to ravenous carrion feeders. -
2017-02-28 at 12 AM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock I think you mean the poor design was a result of poor R&D funding management…and if so, yes. bean counters in todays corporate world have entirely too much influence. if it were up to me, every single one would be drawn…quartered…and fed to ravenous carrion feeders.
i dunno man i'm pretty sure FN really did try to make a nice gun, and i do think it's a nice gun, for what it's meant for. i can't think of a better home defense weapon than a automatic p90 with a silencer. i don't know how the fuck you could miss or fail to kill even a couple threats, in close quarters. and i think that's all it was really meant to do. bullet-hose at short range that anyone can use. reloading is probably a bitch, but, 50 rounds probably lasts a lot longer IRL than in a video game, because most peoples first reaction to shooting a high RPM automatic rifle is to stop shooting it once it makes a lot of noise and motion. so your generic user of the p90 (not soldiers, probably, POGUES or civvies) are going to fire in bursts.
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2017-02-28 at 12:26 AM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock the first thing to know about getting advice on firearms is to take everything with a grain of salt and get second…third…and fourth opinions. despite how well meaning advice-givers try to be, that doesnt mean they know what the fuck theyre talking about.
second thing…if youve never fired a gun, find someone to let you shoot theirs to get a feel for it and get an idea for what you like and dont like. proper etiquette is to bring your own ammo.
an SKS is good for a first gun…almost ideal. its cheap, uses cheap ammo, is virtually indestructible, and is more accurate than an AK. the el-cheapo 7.62x39 ammo isnt made for accuracy…its made so you can make the gun go 'bang' with something coming out of the barrel…thatll eventually wind up in a dinner-plate sized target pattern. if you want to hunt with one, or take more precision shots, make sure you get real ammo from a quality manufacturer with an appropriate bullet. 7.62x39 is good for animals the size of medium sized deer (or smaller) at 100 yards or less.
i wouldnt get a shotgun as a first gun…but thats just me. theyre versatile depending on various types of shot/slug, plinking ammo can be cheap, but theyre definitely not ideal as a first gun. buuuuut…everyone is different and some people may love having a shotgun over a rifle. there are loads available that have lower recoil. i know people whos only firearm is a shotgun, or multiple shotguns.
for a first gun look for something that shoots ammo that is easy to get a hold of. i dont know where you live, but it sounds like ammo isnt as common to find as it is where i live. for instance…a 30-06 bolt-action could be good because the ammo can be down-loaded to shoot with virtually no recoil but when loaded hotter, can be used to hunt bears. the rifles are relatively cheap around where i live…and i dont know any store that sells ammo that doesnt sell 30-06. but thats just an example. where i live .223/5.56x45, .308/7.62x51, 30-06, and .270 win are ALWAYS on the shelf. even during the ammo shortages those calibers werent impossible to find, compared to other calibers.
as far as i know .22s are common all over the world and can be used to feed a pistol or rifle. ammo is cheap, the guns are cheap, but they arent good for hunting anything larger than a rabbit.
I can get lots of ammo, there are hunting/gun shops all over, I'm pretty sure walmart has ammo too. My grandpa loads his own, he has .357 rifle .44 rifle, black powder rifles and stuff like that, he is the only one I know with a gun.
Yeah an SKS sounds like a good idea it looks pretty cheap too around $250, I think I'll go with that, thanks a lot. -
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2017-02-28 at 1:04 AM UTCyou win.
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2017-02-28 at 1:35 AM UTC
Originally posted by snab_snib i dunno man i'm pretty sure FN really did try to make a nice gun, and i do think it's a nice gun, for what it's meant for. i can't think of a better home defense weapon than a automatic p90 with a silencer. i don't know how the fuck you could miss or fail to kill even a couple threats, in close quarters. and i think that's all it was really meant to do. bullet-hose at short range that anyone can use. reloading is probably a bitch, but, 50 rounds probably lasts a lot longer IRL than in a video game, because most peoples first reaction to shooting a high RPM automatic rifle is to stop shooting it once it makes a lot of noise and motion. so your generic user of the p90 (not soldiers, probably, POGUES or civvies) are going to fire in bursts.
as long as the magazine works reliably on the thing, i don't consider it to be a gun that shouldn't exist.
yes, its nice...but its only redeeming quality is the ability to fire military/LE AP rounds at full auto. additionally...i cant say for certain, but based on my only observation and 'feel' when shooting the select-fire and civilian version, im going to say that the military/LE rounds (all types that I fired, not just the AP) are significantly more powerful than what FN sells to the public. that being the case, unless someone can handload the 'better' performing rounds, or FN starts selling the non-AP 'better' rounds, it will be handicapped. the military rounds make the recoil feel like 'kick-slam' while the civilian ones sort of 'push-tap'...its hard to describe.
even with a spare mag, reloading isnt 'quick' compared to other magazines...but considering it has 1/3 or double...or more...of what regular calibers hold, the timing may even out.
yes, a full-auto P90 with 50 rounds of any type of 5.7xshit at CQB range would be devastating. low-recoil, easily maneuverable...even with one hand, short enough to minimize a grab-handhold, minimal sensory-disruption, (I, personally, wouldnt use a silencer indoors...the blast would be more of a distraction for anyone down-range physiologically, plus i use electronic ear-pro), would make for a good home defense gun...assuming the shooter knew enough to not send shit down-range thru their own walls into their neighbors house. the only bummer is, civilians cant own full-auto anything.
and, no, 50 rounds in the P90 on full auto does NOT last very long at all.
ive seen pogues fire full-auto hoses and NOT let go of the trigger until the mag was empty and the range lintels (posts over the range to prevent high shots from going ballistic and hitting things theyre not sposed to hit) were filled with 2/3ds of the magazine contents.
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2017-02-28 at 1:37 AM UTC
Originally posted by SCronaldo_J_Trump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOoUVeyaY_8
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2017-02-28 at 1:44 AM UTCIts a troll video.
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2017-02-28 at 1:45 AM UTC
Originally posted by SCronaldo_J_Trump I can get lots of ammo, there are hunting/gun shops all over, I'm pretty sure walmart has ammo too. My grandpa loads his own, he has .357 rifle .44 rifle, black powder rifles and stuff like that, he is the only one I know with a gun.
Yeah an SKS sounds like a good idea it looks pretty cheap too around $250, I think I'll go with that, thanks a lot.
i dont know where you are...but it must suck. where i live you cant drive more than a couple of miles without a gunshop or gun range being seen. plus, every walmart and sporting goods store sells guns and ammo.
i dont know what SKSs are going for now, but the one I bought originally was $195. make sure when you get it its clean. take out the bolt and spray generous amounts of high-grade brake parts cleaner thru it till all of the 'shit' is out. focus on the firing pin and the hole where it lives. then, dry it...preferably by blowing compressed air thru it...then when its very dry, use high-quality, low viscosity, non-dirt-adhereing lube in/on the bolt/firing pin.
if your grandfather handloads...he can make you ammo that is as accurate in an SKS as regular rifle ammo in higher cost rifles...with the benefit of better performing bullets. dont expect it to be cheap, tho. the bullets i handload are literally more expensive than the entire round of the 'tula' junk i buy. (tula=accurate to about a 6x6 area, but ive shot living things with the HP version and it kills the shit out of it.)
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2017-02-28 at 1:47 AM UTC
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2017-02-28 at 1:47 AM UTC
Originally posted by infinityshock i dont know where you are…but it must suck. where i live you cant drive more than a couple of miles without a gunshop or gun range being seen. plus, every walmart and sporting goods store sells guns and ammo.
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2017-02-28 at 1:55 AM UTC
Originally posted by reject This is what the rest of the world says about alcohol and codeine
that would explain the current conditions of the rest of the world.
where i live everyone sells alcohol...however they have some sort of full-retard rules about it. like...on sundays you cant buy it at a certain time within city limits...but there are alcohol shops that are in the county (outside city limits) that can sell it...AND the best part is, 'outside' city limits can be the difference of literally 100 feet. they just closed down an ABC liquor store inside city limits because an alcohol shop on the next street corner was outside city limits and always had a filled parking lot.
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2017-02-28 at 2:20 AM UTCSay more gun stuff.
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2017-02-28 at 2:24 AM UTCthread has been somewhat educational
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2017-02-28 at 2:26 AM UTCI'm gonna start with an SKS and learn how to shoot, maintain and everything. I have never hunted maybe I can do that some day.
