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  1. Sophie Pedophile Tech Support
    Originally posted by Lanny That's silly. Like maybe you think there is no legitimate state but obviously there is some body of people that provide services to and constrain the actions of american citizens and this is what any reasonable person would call government, whether or not you feel it's legitimate. In fact if you deny the legitimacy of the state it seems even more important that reporting organizations have unconditional access to the machinations of the state.

    No manner of "state" is legitimate as long as coercion is involved but that's a different conversation entirely. And sure, people would call that "the government", but all the "government" is, is an association of individuals with a shared belief in this concept that we call the government.


    Originally posted by Lanny Freedom of association in the US is guaranteed in the bill of rights and extends to citizens

    The bill of rights is a piece of paper, you don't need a piece of paper to have freedom.

    Originally posted by Lanny not branches of government. Not that you should think protections granted by that document mean anything anyway. And if you're appealing to some moral principle then it still shouldn't be applicable since, again, government's not a thing, doesn't have moral rights.

    Like i said, what we call 'the government" is just an association of individuals, and individuals are up for moral consideration.


    Originally posted by Lanny Ok, so let's imagine an inverted scenario here. 8 years ago and Obama is trying to get the affordable healthcare act through congress. He bans conservative news agencies from covering the proceedings so it's literally impossible to give a hostile first hand report. Is that also A-OK?

    Sure. It's not like the law means anything anyway.

  2. Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by Sophie Sure. It's not like the law means anything anyway.

    For someone who's so down on the state you seem awfully trusting of it, not feeling a need for equal access of the press to its activities and all.
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  20. Sophie Pedophile Tech Support
    Originally posted by Lanny For someone who's so down on the state you seem awfully trusting of it, not feeling a need for equal access of the press to its activities and all.

    Exactly the opposite. The fundamental thing to take away from this is, that even though there is press at a press briefing or whatever the state will do what the state will do. "Checks and balances" realistically do little to stop the state from doing anything.

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