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2020-04-25 at 8:26 PM UTCOr he inherited his parents money and assets
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2020-04-25 at 8:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by Stopffs I never said anyone would get 2400 on top of 100% of their regular wages. I said that some will be making more than their regular wages WITH the extra 600.00 a week from fed gov. And that is still true - some up to 20% more.
I never said that either. You have athletic abilities issues. Everything I have said to you, you are not even acknowledging. I'm going to explain it one more time- Nobody is getting an extra 600 dollars in addition to their regular wages from unemployment.
AGAIN
If you make 1000 dollars a week, unemployment will only cover up to a certain amount. Let's say it's 450, which is not far from actual unemployment benefit limits. The reason unemployment is BELOW normal wages is so that people don't just stay on it and they actually get out and find a new job. You can easily google this information but unemployment never pays more than a certain amount.
If you only make 800 a month, you don't get that 450. You'll get a percentage, idk. To make it easy, let's say that comes out to 400 a month instead.
Now the government announces that they will pay full wages. They give states up to 600 per person for unemployment.
If the guy making 1000 applied, he would no longer get 450. He would get 1000, his full wage. That's an extra 550 dollars, which is under the 600 limit.
If the guy making 800 applied, he would get 800 instead of 400. That's an extra 400 dollars for him.
Now maybe somebody makes 1500 a month, but unemployment maxes out at that 450 number. Well, he can only get 600 extra, so now he's only getting 1050 instead of the 1500 he would be making at work. He does not get his full wage, but he does still get the supplement to help him.
If this doesn't explain it cleanly to you idk what to tell you. There is no extra 600 dollars, only 600 dollars being used to bring people up to their regular wages. Read the actual legislature I linked and you'll see that.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/apr/06/facebook-posts/big-boost-unemployment-checks-no-pay-hike-workers/ -
2020-04-25 at 8:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by tr1pl3_thr3@t 1200 doesn't even cover my bills. Let alone allow for basic sustenance, as well. If that 1200 has you covered for essentials through multiple months, I give you props.
I must ask … you do realize that suspended payments of bills does not mean you won't owe the funds once everything is back to normal, right. Why would anyone willingly put themselves into a situation that is financially detrimental?
I'm seriously beginning to think all of you Regressives don't read the news. People are probably going to be getting another Stimulus check and it'd going to be announced early next month. The money has already been set aside and signed for with the original CARE act.
1200 is more than enough for your essentials. What do you need other than food and water? Your utilities wont be shut off and you won't be kicked out. You might have to pay it back later, sure, but I'd rather go into debt than risk killing the people I love.
Also even if you're essential you can apply for unemployment right now. It's a myth that you can't. They released guidelines when they announced the new unemployment rules, all you have to do is show that you didn't make money the previous week. You don't have to be fired or even not be working. Even if you've just lost hours you can apply for unemployment.
Your work can turn it down but I have a feeling they're being pretty liberal with it right now. I know a freelancer who got on unemployment, and I talked to a dependent who got a check. So if people who aren't supposed to be getting it are getting it, you can definitely get it. -
2020-04-25 at 8:45 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace I never said that either. You have athletic abilities issues. Everything I have said to you, you are not even acknowledging. I'm going to explain it one more time- Nobody is getting an extra 600 dollars in addition to their regular wages from unemployment.
AGAIN
If you make 1000 dollars a week, unemployment will only cover up to a certain amount. Let's say it's 450, which is not far from actual unemployment benefit limits. The reason unemployment is BELOW normal wages is so that people don't just stay on it and they actually get out and find a new job. You can easily google this information but unemployment never pays more than a certain amount.
If you only make 800 a month, you don't get that 450. You'll get a percentage, idk. To make it easy, let's say that comes out to 400 a month instead.
Now the government announces that they will pay full wages. They give states up to 600 per person for unemployment.
If the guy making 1000 applied, he would no longer get 450. He would get 1000, his full wage. That's an extra 550 dollars, which is under the 600 limit.
If the guy making 800 applied, he would get 800 instead of 400. That's an extra 400 dollars for him.
Now maybe somebody makes 1500 a month, but unemployment maxes out at that 450 number. Well, he can only get 600 extra, so now he's only getting 1050 instead of the 1500 he would be making at work. He does not get his full wage, but he does still get the supplement to help him.
If this doesn't explain it cleanly to you idk what to tell you. There is no extra 600 dollars, only 600 dollars being used to bring people up to their regular wages. Read the actual legislature I linked and you'll see that.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/apr/06/facebook-posts/big-boost-unemployment-checks-no-pay-hike-workers/
Iāve already read and comprehend how the unemployment and fed gov money (4 month help- expiring July 30 as of now) works
I believe you are incorrect on the dispersement of federal funds .
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2020-04-25 at 8:46 PM UTCLmao - siting a fucking Facebook article haha .. just caught the link
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2020-04-25 at 8:49 PM UTC
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2020-04-25 at 8:51 PM UTCI donāt click on shit from this site lol
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2020-04-25 at 8:52 PM UTCIm still waiting on this Heroes Fund shit. Ivery much doubt ill see a dime
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2020-04-25 at 8:53 PM UTC
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2020-04-25 at 8:55 PM UTC
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2020-04-25 at 8:56 PM UTC
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2020-04-25 at 8:57 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Isnāt that supposed to be for essential workers? I doubt itāll pass. JMO
Yeah UPS got declared essential and ive been āessentialā since like mid february. And being around droves of sick people for $13/hr is fucking gay. I wouldve much rather stayed home for a month or so and then gone back to my job. I did get a sweet lil piece of paper to tape to my window though. No masks or sanitizer or pay raise, ut i got a glorified hall pass so its all good lol. -
2020-04-25 at 8:58 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace I'm seriously beginning to think all of you Regressives don't read the news. People are probably going to be getting another Stimulus check and it'd going to be announced early next month. The money has already been set aside and signed for with the original CARE act.
1200 is more than enough for your essentials. What do you need other than food and water? Your utilities wont be shut off and you won't be kicked out. You might have to pay it back later, sure, but I'd rather go into debt than risk killing the people I love.
Also even if you're essential you can apply for unemployment right now. It's a myth that you can't. They released guidelines when they announced the new unemployment rules, all you have to do is show that you didn't make money the previous week. You don't have to be fired or even not be working. Even if you've just lost hours you can apply for unemployment.
Your work can turn it down but I have a feeling they're being pretty liberal with it right now. I know a freelancer who got on unemployment, and I talked to a dependent who got a check. So if people who aren't supposed to be getting it are getting it, you can definitely get it.
Probably is the key word in your first paragraph. It is not guaranteed. I won't hang my financial well being off "could happen"
As to the second paragraph ... they can't kick you out or turn off your utilities right now, this is true. But say you pay a measly 400 for rent each month and maybe 60 in electric, 40 for WSG. Basic shit, that's 500 a month. Now say we are in this stale mate for 2 more months, 3 months total. You'll owe 1500. But you haven't had an income for these past three months by choice. Come the first of the month your bill collectors are coming round. They want that 1500 plus the next months bills too. 2000, or get evicted and tarnish your credit by not paying your utility bills.
Do you think someone will put into legislator that these companies cannot expect payment in full by the end of the month things return to normal? Do you think it will be written that this situation cannot affect credit reporting because you chose to stay home? They may not be able to evict you or turn off your water but they sure as hell can report you as delinquent on your accounts. -
2020-04-25 at 8:59 PM UTCOn my oldest living brothers birthday ALL will be OPENED AGAIN. September 29th. he hits 50 and has been dealing with a nasty back(6 surgeries and colon cancer)NO FUCKING SOONER. he DESERVES that much in life. He has been my best friend like forever even in the worst of times. If not Corona can last forever. Goodbye on this shit Tech. Even tho yo old self I envision is someone I once loved. Seriously you do and it scary...you look like how she would age. I know you is married BUT if hubby ever croakaaaas look me up for a brief marriage, pregnancy, and than i will kill myself knowing yo is gonna raise our kid. Ok? no emotional shit when I kill myself tho. Just emote OUR kid til you die. KK? cool fucking cunt. OOOPSIE!. Sorry on some level yet in a very detached way. No sorries thereThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2020-04-25 at 8:59 PM UTC^^ If the government says that companies cant collect on debts, interest rates are going to skyrocket
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2020-04-25 at 9:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by CASPER Incorrect. Like across the board. Theyre already saying the families of dead people who recieved checks can keep the money. The scandal and headache of doing what youre describing is just….not….going….to….happen.
Well, dead people receiving checks isn't what I'm referring to, because those checks were not requested by any of the family members. There was no fraud involved. The idiots in the government are the ones who sent dead people checks, without checking first to see if they were dead or not. But believe me, if someone intentionally defrauded the aid system, they will be found out and punished to the maximum extent of the law. -
2020-04-25 at 9:28 PM UTC
Originally posted by tr1pl3_thr3@t Probably is the key word in your first paragraph. It is not guaranteed. I won't hang my financial well being off "could happen"
As to the second paragraph … they can't kick you out or turn off your utilities right now, this is true. But say you pay a measly 400 for rent each month and maybe 60 in electric, 40 for WSG. Basic shit, that's 500 a month. Now say we are in this stale mate for 2 more months, 3 months total. You'll owe 1500. But you haven't had an income for these past three months by choice. Come the first of the month your bill collectors are coming round. They want that 1500 plus the next months bills too. 2000, or get evicted and tarnish your credit by not paying your utility bills.
Do you think someone will put into legislator that these companies cannot expect payment in full by the end of the month things return to normal? Do you think it will be written that this situation cannot affect credit reporting because you chose to stay home? They may not be able to evict you or turn off your water but they sure as hell can report you as delinquent on your accounts.
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2020-04-25 at 9:30 PM UTC
Originally posted by Netflxchillr dude, look…
if your dumb-butt, is going to sit there (& are capable of making) and/but choose not build yourself a "fire" to keep yourself warm in winter to survive? Umm, Yeah, then your dumb-butt deserves to die!! Yes, let the elements of nature eliminate the stupid. for if you cannot use such abilities to sustain your "own" life, I'd be damned if you need to survive to "breed!"
don't confuse one's absolute "personal" abilities to survive and sustain life & one's "unfavorable" biological immunity that's unable to sustain themself from extinction.
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2020-04-25 at 9:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by tr1pl3_thr3@t Probably is the key word in your first paragraph. It is not guaranteed. I won't hang my financial well being off "could happen"
As to the second paragraph … they can't kick you out or turn off your utilities right now, this is true. But say you pay a measly 400 for rent each month and maybe 60 in electric, 40 for WSG. Basic shit, that's 500 a month. Now say we are in this stale mate for 2 more months, 3 months total. You'll owe 1500. But you haven't had an income for these past three months by choice. Come the first of the month your bill collectors are coming round. They want that 1500 plus the next months bills too. 2000, or get evicted and tarnish your credit by not paying your utility bills.
Do you think someone will put into legislator that these companies cannot expect payment in full by the end of the month things return to normal? Do you think it will be written that this situation cannot affect credit reporting because you chose to stay home? They may not be able to evict you or turn off your water but they sure as hell can report you as delinquent on your accounts.
I have learned from the magic orbs and will no longer be requiring your services -
2020-04-25 at 9:40 PM UTC
