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Should we open the country now?
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2020-04-25 at 6:06 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace Talking about the stimulus.
Unemployment issue is laughable because those people clearly don't understand how unemployment works. Those percentage jumps are from the unemployment amount they would've got, not their wage. It's pretty much going up to normal wage amounts instead of the usual paltry amount that Unemployment is. Nobody is getting 600 extra and anybody who says such a thing does not understand how this actually works and has only absorbed what they heard in the media.
ie if you make 10 dollars a week unemployment may pay 4 a week, but with this stimulus you'll get your full 10.
Well I just received all of my back pay unemployment and the 600.00 a week ... but I donât make 10 dollars a week either. -
2020-04-25 at 6:07 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace I just call out stupid when I see it. Learn to use the only language you speak correctly.
or what???
the only thing you're ever going to bust my chops about.. is my sentence structure/words? do i care? nope. i sure don't see you busting chops on anything else- I raised up for discussion.
so, feel free to be the idiotic verbal police. no worries from here...
gotta run. for now.
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2020-04-25 at 6:09 PM UTCHave a good day chiller đ
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2020-04-25 at 6:14 PM UTC
Originally posted by Stopffs Well I just received all of my back pay unemployment and the 600.00 a week … but I donât make 10 dollars a week either.
Yeah, it's an example dumbass.
You did not receive 600 "extra". You do not receive full pay on unemployment. Did you read the example? It has nothing to do with if you're making 10 dollars or 1000 dollars a week. In my example you could be making 9 dollars a week and the government would bump you from 4 to 9, not 10.
It's actually funny. Conservative states have the highest unemployment raise right now. Why? Because unemployment benefits were so fucking low before that to reach their normal wages some states had to increase benefits by 120% lol. The lowest is massachussets which raised it by 88%... because again, it's not just a flat 600, and it's not an extra 600 from your normal wages. 600 is the maximum amount they can give you to bump you up to your regular wage.
So yeah, you might get 600 "more" on unemployment than before, but it's not actually extra money. Nobody is making more than what they made before. You can argue all you want about your 600 dollars but what I just described is exactly what's in the CARE act. I don't know why the fuck you think Republicans would sign off on a bill that gives people 2400 extra a month on top of 100% wages for no reason. You should actually read the legislation.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/3548/text?q=product+update -
2020-04-25 at 7:13 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Considering that these bills are only temporary measures, itâs highly unlikely that it would âkeep Americans unemployedâ. Thatâs taking it a bit far.
Was it a dumb? Donât fully know their motives, so I canât say. From the surface it seems dumb.
But it takes a two party system to balance things out, which is exactly what we have, (barring the few independents).
It boils down to partisan Democrats rejecting ANYTHING from the other side, no matter what damage or destruction that obstinacy does to the country. It's basically treason and a clear and present threat to national security. If I had my way, they'd all be behind bars. -
2020-04-25 at 7:15 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL It boils down to partisan Democrats rejecting ANYTHING from the other side, no matter what damage or destruction that obstinacy does to the country. It's basically treason and a clear and present threat to national security. If I had my way, they'd all be behind bars.
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2020-04-25 at 7:17 PM UTCId probably wait a other couple weeks at least until the numbers start showing a significant slow. Even thats no assurance but we cant close everything down forever.
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2020-04-25 at 7:17 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace You're making the ADULT decision to endanger others as well as yourself every time you leave the house. You're childish if you think you don't have any responsibility for that. We all endanger others every single time we go in public. You endanger strangers, your family, coworkers, or anybody else you come into contact with.
It's no big fucking reveal that people are making "adult" decisions to leave their homes. That is literally what everyone does every time they leave the house. Why are you saying this? It doesn't absolve you of responsibility you piece of shit.
I am an essential employee. I have 2 options. Continue to work or go unpaid. Granted, if I was home in Texas I would have a third option to burn through my accumulated vacation leave.
I did not make the decision to put myself in the vulnerable position of escorting people to work (directly). I did not make the choice to have the room beside mine used to Medical Hold people for their 14 day required quarantine when entering country.
I did however make the decision to inform my children of my DNR preference, not Covid related but in any circumstance. They've known for a couple years now. -
2020-04-25 at 7:19 PM UTC
Originally posted by tr1pl3_thr3@t I am an essential employee. I have 2 options. Continue to work or go unpaid. Granted, if I was home in Texas I would have a third option to burn through my accumulated vacation leave.
I did not make the decision to put myself in the vulnerable position of escorting people to work (directly). I did not make the choice to have the room beside mine used to Medical Hold people for their 14 day required quarantine when entering country.
I did however make the decision to inform my children of my DNR preference, not Covid related but in any circumstance. They've known for a couple years now.
Oh yeah you did. You made the ADULT decision to endanger everyone around you. Nobody is forcing you to work. Plenty of essential workers are staying home. Thats what this money is for in the first place. -
2020-04-25 at 7:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace Oh yeah you did. You made the ADULT decision to endanger everyone around you. Nobody is forcing you to work. Plenty of essential workers are staying home. Thats what this money is for in the first place.
What if the money hasnt arrived, or wont arrive, or its not near enough for you to survive? -
2020-04-25 at 7:53 PM UTCAs stated, if I were home I could make the decision. However that is not the case.
"The U.S. Department of Labor's unemployment insurance programs provide unemployment benefits to eligible workers who become unemployed through no fault of their own and meet certain other eligibility requirements."
Choosing to stay home when deemed an essential worker negates the part where it says "through no fault of their own". Though I am sure this is on a case by case basis with current situations it is still a choice made. As I said. I can work or I can go unpaid. -
2020-04-25 at 7:58 PM UTC
Originally posted by tr1pl3_thr3@t As stated, if I were home I could make the decision. However that is not the case.
"The U.S. Department of Labor's unemployment insurance programs provide unemployment benefits to eligible workers who become unemployed through no fault of their own and meet certain other eligibility requirements."
Choosing to stay home when deemed an essential worker negates the part where it says "through no fault of their own". Though I am sure this is on a case by case basis with current situations it is still a choice made. As I said. I can work or I can go unpaid.
Yep. And it's your ADULT decision. You could've put the health and lives of your family first and stayed home unpaid. Stimulus check should cover most of your basic essentials.
It's not an EASY decision but it's still a decision you could've made. Plenty of people have. I'm essential and I chose to stay home. -
2020-04-25 at 8:04 PM UTCThey'll be going through the information of all the aid recipients at a later date, with a fine-toothed comb, and anybody who got money who shouldn't have is probably going to regret it big time.
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2020-04-25 at 8:08 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace Yep. And it's your ADULT decision. You could've put the health and lives of your family first and stayed home unpaid. Stimulus check should cover most of your basic essentials.
It's not an EASY decision but it's still a decision you could've made. Plenty of people have. I'm essential and I chose to stay home.
My stimulus check wouldnt have covered rent and necessities here in LA, and EDD has been backed up and gridlocked for weeks. -
2020-04-25 at 8:09 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace Yeah, it's an example dumbass.
You did not receive 600 "extra". You do not receive full pay on unemployment. Did you read the example? It has nothing to do with if you're making 10 dollars or 1000 dollars a week. In my example you could be making 9 dollars a week and the government would bump you from 4 to 9, not 10.
It's actually funny. Conservative states have the highest unemployment raise right now. Why? Because unemployment benefits were so fucking low before that to reach their normal wages some states had to increase benefits by 120% lol. The lowest is massachussets which raised it by 88%… because again, it's not just a flat 600, and it's not an extra 600 from your normal wages. 600 is the maximum amount they can give you to bump you up to your regular wage.
So yeah, you might get 600 "more" on unemployment than before, but it's not actually extra money. Nobody is making more than what they made before. You can argue all you want about your 600 dollars but what I just described is exactly what's in the CARE act. I don't know why the fuck you think Republicans would sign off on a bill that gives people 2400 extra a month on top of 100% wages for no reason. You should actually read the legislation.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/3548/text?q=product+update
I never said anyone would get 2400 on top of 100% of their regular wages. I said that some will be making more than their regular wages WITH the extra 600.00 a week from fed gov. And that is still true - some up to 20% more. -
2020-04-25 at 8:09 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL They'll be going through the information of all the aid recipients at a later date, with a fine-toothed comb, and anybody who got money who shouldn't have is probably going to regret it big time.
Incorrect. Like across the board. Theyre already saying the families of dead people who recieved checks can keep the money. The scandal and headache of doing what youre describing is just....not....going....to....happen.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2020-04-25 at 8:11 PM UTC
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2020-04-25 at 8:14 PM UTCWhile I will still see a considerable negative each month. Requiring me to dig into my savings each month to keep up.
Just does not make much sense -
2020-04-25 at 8:16 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace Yep. And it's your ADULT decision. You could've put the health and lives of your family first and stayed home unpaid. Stimulus check should cover most of your basic essentials.
It's not an EASY decision but it's still a decision you could've made. Plenty of people have. I'm essential and I chose to stay home.
1200 doesn't even cover my bills. Let alone allow for basic sustenance, as well. If that 1200 has you covered for essentials through multiple months, I give you props.
I must ask ... you do realize that suspended payments of bills does not mean you won't owe the funds once everything is back to normal, right. Why would anyone willingly put themselves into a situation that is financially detrimental? -
2020-04-25 at 8:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by tr1pl3_thr3@t 1200 doesn't even cover my bills. Let alone allow for basic sustenance, as well. If that 1200 has you covered for essentials through multiple months, I give you props.
I must ask … you do realize that suspended payments of bills does not mean you won't owe the funds once everything is back to normal, right. Why would anyone willingly put themselves into a situation that is financially detrimental?
Cause he lives at home with mommy
