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Should we open the country now?
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2020-04-25 at 2:37 PM UTCFYI
I'm liking this guys opinions more & more.
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2020-04-25 at 2:37 PM UTCyou're right and you're wrong
Reread the last statement
"you can't be a damned grown up and make an informed decision for you and yours, you deserve to consequences"
Those people at gatherings, they are making a choice. Those people in their homes, they are making a choice.
Those "essential workers" are not being allowed to make a choice, the decision is being made for them. They, us/we, are being told to still come to work. They are not being given the option to stay home and take precautions while collecting unemployment.
Those people out daily because they "need" something ... not only are they making a choice for themselves but for every "essential" employee they come into contact with. And every person that employee comes into contact with. And every person the person comes into contact with ... so on and such.
Either shut EVERYTHUNG DOWN FOR 2 WEEKS or shut nothing down. Those are the only 2 options that make sense. Everything else is just fluffThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2020-04-25 at 2:41 PM UTC
Originally posted by tr1pl3_thr3@t you're right and you're wrong
Reread the last statement
"you can't be a damned grown up and make an informed decision for you and yours, you deserve to consequences"
Those people at gatherings, they are making a choice. Those people in their homes, they are making a choice.
Those "essential workers" are not being allowed to make a choice, the decision is being made for them. They, us/we, are being told to still come to work. They are not being given the option to stay home and take precautions while collecting unemployment.
Those people out daily because they "need" something … not only are they making a choice for themselves but for every "essential" employee they come into contact with. And every person that employee comes into contact with. And every person the person comes into contact with … so on and such.
Either shut EVERYTHUNG DOWN FOR 2 WEEKS or shut nothing down. Those are the only 2 options that make sense. Everything else is just fluff
2 weeks
They recently just found a girl with a 6mo incubation before symptoms appeared. Normal incubation is 5-14 days. 4 weeks is not enough. And if you shut everything down you need to feed people and deliver food to their homes like many other countries have done. Otherwise people will just starve without a place to buy food. -
2020-04-25 at 2:57 PM UTCNormal incubation is 5 to 14 days. If everything is shut down for 14 days any normal people whom may be affected by the virus will show symptoms. Once symptoms are detectable ADULT decisions can be made. Like whether or not you infect others or stay home and heal.
Hell shut EVERYTHING down for 30 days. Then most the normal people infected that do not require hospitalization will have also recovered. (As WHO states the time from onset to clinical recovery for mild cases is 2 weeks. 3-6 for more serious cases)
Its this half-assed shit that is promoting fear and delaying progress to the well being of all concerned.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2020-04-25 at 3:09 PM UTC
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2020-04-25 at 3:15 PM UTC
Originally posted by tr1pl3_thr3@t Normal incubation is 5 to 14 days. If everything is shut down for 14 days any normal people whom may be affected by the virus will show symptoms. Once symptoms are detectable ADULT decisions can be made. Like whether or not you infect others or stay home and heal.
Hell shut EVERYTHING down for 30 days. Then most the normal people infected that do not require hospitalization will have also recovered. (As WHO states the time from onset to clinical recovery for mild cases is 2 weeks. 3-6 for more serious cases)
Its this half-assed shit that is promoting fear and delaying progress to the well being of all concerned.
"My" feeling is... it's, eventually, going to boil down to: Survival of the fittest or a sense of herd stability- which, does/would/should happen, naturally, like as in nature. -
2020-04-25 at 3:17 PM UTC
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2020-04-25 at 3:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist So vulnerable populations should ājust dieā?
such as? what populations- you speaking? be a little more specific for clarity. the:
elderly
weak
medically susceptible
young
racially
impoverished
elites
which?
If any one of these populus' is the more susceptible "weaker" of a populus- how will a 'lockdown' keep them from dying, anyway?
As in nature... it's called survival of the fittest. A lockdown isn't going to keep them from dying if they aren't strong enough to fight it and survive it to begin with. It's the basis of natural selection. Nature doesn't care about our "feelings" of who should - live or die. Nature can give a fuck less- and that's the harsh reality of the bottom line. -
2020-04-25 at 3:41 PM UTCIām specifically speaking of the elderly.
Iāll tell ya how it works. At my Momās extended care facility, she is locked in her room. Anyone that enters her room is gowned, gloved, and masked. They do not go near her, but set her food and medicine by the door. She has also been offered a mask. That takes care of the asymptomatic workers that could enter the building.
If ya want though, we could just open all the doors to these facilities, just get it over withš.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2020-04-25 at 3:46 PM UTC
Originally posted by tr1pl3_thr3@t Normal incubation is 5 to 14 days. If everything is shut down for 14 days any normal people whom may be affected by the virus will show symptoms. Once symptoms are detectable ADULT decisions can be made. Like whether or not you infect others or stay home and heal.
Hell shut EVERYTHING down for 30 days. Then most the normal people infected that do not require hospitalization will have also recovered. (As WHO states the time from onset to clinical recovery for mild cases is 2 weeks. 3-6 for more serious cases)
Its this half-assed shit that is promoting fear and delaying progress to the well being of all concerned.
You don't have a right to endanger the health of others. -
2020-04-25 at 3:47 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2020-04-25 at 3:55 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Iām specifically speaking of the elderly.
Iāll tell ya how it works. At my Momās extended care facility, she is locked in her room. Anyone that enters her room is gowned, gloved, and masked. They do not go near her, but set her food and medicine by the door. She is also been offered a mask. That takes care of the asymptomatic workers that could enter the building.
If ya want though, we could just open all the doors to these facilities, just get it over withš.
And so, we should keep the nation on total lockdown so that an elderly person escapes enevitable death?? for you? or for me?? if my elderly father becomes exposed.
I'm sorry- but no. I don't believe we should go into complete Country economic ruin- for "us" trying to fuck with the natural cycle of life. nor; would my elderly father wish me too, either.
We just have a different appreciation for nature's way, me thinks...and how she (nature) takes care of herself. -
2020-04-25 at 4:04 PM UTCNot person, hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of elderly people.
I absolutely 100% disagree with you, if not to stop needless suffering, then to stop hospitals from becoming overrun.
Thereās a whole lot more to it than ājust letting people dieā. Iām surprised you can be this ācoldā about other human beings lives.š¤·āāļø -
2020-04-25 at 4:16 PM UTCI'm not being "cold" or selfish at all.
I'm just not one who thinks it is "my" or "your" right to fuq with nature's cycle of life- or the lack of it- for our own selfish motivations.
Natures way of managing itself has been doing so- long before us, and she(nature) shall continue to do so- long surpassing us & for us to be going into a state of complete Country colapse- over prolonging what is the inevitable? is just plain STUPID.
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2020-04-25 at 4:18 PM UTCOk, I guess we agree to disagree. And yes, people deciding āwho should live or dieā, is cold-hearted.
And speaking for an entire population or frontline care workers, is not speaking for āyouā or āIā. -
2020-04-25 at 4:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by Netflxchillr I'm not being "cold" or selfish at all.
I'm just not one who thinks it is "my" or "your" right to fuq with nature's cycle of life- or the lack of it- for our own selfish motivations.
Natures way of managing itself has been doing so- long before us, and she(nature) shall continue to do so- long surpassing us & for us to be going into a state of complete Country colapse- over prolonging what is the inevitable? is just plain STUPID.
Do you believe people should just freeze to death in winter? That's nature's way. Starting a fire to stay warm is just a selfish motivator.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2020-04-25 at 4:46 PM UTC
Originally posted by Netflxchillr I'm not being "cold" or selfish at all.
I'm just not one who thinks it is "my" or "your" right to fuq with nature's cycle of life- or the lack of it- for our own selfish motivations.
Natures way of managing itself has been doing so- long before us, and she(nature) shall continue to do so- long surpassing us & for us to be going into a state of complete Country colapse- over prolonging what is the inevitable? is just plain STUPID.
It's funny. People who actually have to deal with the brutality of the cycle of life don't feel this way. -
2020-04-25 at 4:47 PM UTC
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2020-04-25 at 5:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist God forbid we help the low wage earners for 4 months. I mean 82% of the elites got the rest, right?
If anyone should be pissed itās someone like me who has to work, and make my regular earnings. But I donāt mind one bit.
I am being forced to stay home without any paycheck. People who have NOT lost their jobs have no room to bitch.
My team members who have been furloughed would much rather work! This is what is so infuriating to me. Perhaps they (in this case, my company) should have asked us who would rather not work and collect unemployment. I wonder how many would have stood up?
I was a top earner for my company this past year. Exceeded all of my goals and paid a shit ton in taxes.
My industry will not recover from this shit for at least another year.
If they are going to pay people MORE than they normally earn and pay taxes on, thatās not helping anyone!
Perhaps maybe the drug industry .. -
2020-04-25 at 5:03 PM UTC
Originally posted by Stopffs I am being forced to stay home without any paycheck. People who have NOT lost their jobs have no room to bitch.
My team members who have been furloughed would much rather work! This is what is so infuriating to me. Perhaps they (in this case, my company) should have asked us who would rather not work and collect unemployment. I wonder how many would have stood up?
I was a top earner for my company this past year. Exceeded all of my goals and paid a shit ton in taxes.
My industry will not recover from this shit for at least another year.
If they are going to pay people MORE than they normally earn and pay taxes on, thatās not helping anyone!
Perhaps maybe the drug industry ..
Who said I was bitching? Actually quite the opposite in my statement.
