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Should we open the country now?
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2020-04-18 at 3:44 AM UTCWhat people think doesn't really matter. It's what they do that matters.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2020-04-18 at 3:48 AM UTC
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2020-04-18 at 4:31 AM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny tests are retarded and they give people a false sense of security.
not only are they not 100% accurate, they test the state your body is in a few days ago since it takes days for body to react to the infection.
tests are onky good if you are already showing symptoms, or you are already deceased from the disease.
They don’t test for immune reaction, the current test kit uses the molecular method -
2020-04-18 at 11:13 AM UTCAlso the tests still work if you aren't showing symptoms. They think some 50% of people infected are asymptomatic. They're not testing people without symptoms here due to shortage but they are in other countries
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2020-04-18 at 11:38 AM UTCThey’re talking about opening West Va. Charts show they have under 1,000 cases, but they haven’t been tested much. They’re nestled right between Ohio and Pennsylvania who both have at least 10,000 cases or just a little under. Ohio will be there soon.
Ohio had to close its eastern border to Pennsylvanians coming over to buy alcohol. -
2020-04-18 at 12:19 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fox They don’t test for immune reaction, the current test kit uses the molecular method
all tests test for different thing.
the PCR tests, that swab-swab test only tests for presence of viruses on the location they swabed, which are no longer effective after the first week because by then, all the viruses would have moved down the respiratory tract from the nose and mouth into the lungs.
which was why the CDC wanted to maintain control and monopoly initially, to maintain consistency because different type of test gives different results. -
2020-04-18 at 12:22 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace Also the tests still work if you aren't showing symptoms. They think some 50% of people infected are asymptomatic. They're not testing people without symptoms here due to shortage but they are in other countries
if this is true then they might as well open up right now since it wont make a different at all. -
2020-04-18 at 1:19 PM UTC
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2020-04-18 at 1:24 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace I don't know how you came to that conclusion. Asymptomatic carriers can still transmit it to someone who may get more severe symptoms.
exactly, and since they are asymptomatic they're free to go to the supermarket, gas station, and everywhere else that are being deemed essential and infect the rest of the population as if theres no lockdown at all. -
2020-04-18 at 1:32 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace I don't know how you came to that conclusion. Asymptomatic carriers can still transmit it to someone who may get more severe symptoms.
When Corona escaped in Wuhan they locked down the whole city for 3 weeks - literally locked everyone - healthy people and all - in their homes and brought them food. They may have known about the properties of the virus.
The only thing that doesn't make sense is why they didn't also close the airports for outgoing flights - perhaps they feared being accused of being illiberal and Soviet by not allowing international travel.
It's amazing how shit our advice has been "if you're feeling unwell..." - "if you have a fever" - "15 minutes in contact with an infected person". It's obvious that our medical establishment still think it's just a flu bro.
Also there is no evidence or even reason to think that any immunity forms from Corona - there are so many repeat cases that it's beyond a joke. So much for the horseshit theory of herd immunity.
"It's just a flu bro".
Not even masks.
This shit is fucked and it's just going to get waaaay worse. -
2020-04-18 at 1:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by Cathay Coof When Corona escaped in Wuhan they locked down the whole city for 3 weeks - literally locked everyone - healthy people and all - in their homes and brought them food. They may have known about the properties of the virus.
The only thing that doesn't make sense is why they didn't also close the airports for outgoing flights - perhaps they feared being accused of being illiberal and Soviet by not allowing international travel.
It's amazing how shit our advice has been "if you're feeling unwell…" - "if you have a fever" - "15 minutes in contact with an infected person". It's obvious that our medical establishment still think it's just a flu bro.
Also there is no evidence or even reason to think that any immunity forms from Corona - there are so many repeat cases that it's beyond a joke. So much for the horseshit theory of herd immunity.
"It's just a flu bro".
Not even masks.
This shit is fucked and it's just going to get waaaay worse.
Agreed. I saw something about China reporting their actual deaths, and it’s up by over 50%.
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2020/04/china-wuhan-revises-coronavirus-death-toll-50-200417111645417.html
Still don’t trust shit they’ve said. -
2020-04-18 at 1:52 PM UTC
Originally posted by Cathay Coof The only thing that doesn't make sense is why they didn't also close the airports for outgoing flights - perhaps they feared being accused of being illiberal and Soviet by not allowing international travel.
because of two things.
1 - because that'd be too draconian.
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2 - because it is the duty and resposibility of your government to secure your borders from infectious chinks, not the other way around.
if illiterated chink villagers from nearby villages knew it was paramount that they bar outsiders from entering their villages to curb the spread of the viruses, then there was simply no reason for other countries not to bar everyone from china from entering their country.
other than politics and economics. -
2020-04-18 at 2 PM UTCcovid 19 is a false flag does anyone even know anyone who actually had it? no.
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2020-04-18 at 2:02 PM UTCalso the country was never closed LOL
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2020-04-18 at 2:02 PM UTCLMAO
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2020-04-18 at 3:57 PM UTCvinny is not even worth replying to.
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2020-04-18 at 4:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by Cathay Coof When Corona escaped in Wuhan they locked down the whole city for 3 weeks - literally locked everyone - healthy people and all - in their homes and brought them food. They may have known about the properties of the virus.
The only thing that doesn't make sense is why they didn't also close the airports for outgoing flights - perhaps they feared being accused of being illiberal and Soviet by not allowing international travel.
It's amazing how shit our advice has been "if you're feeling unwell…" - "if you have a fever" - "15 minutes in contact with an infected person". It's obvious that our medical establishment still think it's just a flu bro.
Also there is no evidence or even reason to think that any immunity forms from Corona - there are so many repeat cases that it's beyond a joke. So much for the horseshit theory of herd immunity.
"It's just a flu bro".
Not even masks.
This shit is fucked and it's just going to get waaaay worse.
Oh they definitely knew.
Some places still aren't taking it seriously here. There are states that are essentially open as usual and are just leaving it up to the people to isolate themselves.
Blows my fucking mind. NY is just the beginning. -
2020-04-18 at 4:07 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny because of two things.
1 - because that'd be too draconian.
and
2 - because it is the duty and resposibility of your government to secure your borders from infectious chinks, not the other way around.
if illiterated chink villagers from nearby villages knew it was paramount that they bar outsiders from entering their villages to curb the spread of the viruses, then there was simply no reason for other countries not to bar everyone from china from entering their country.
other than politics and economics.
Two points:
Corona most likely escaped from a lab - if so, then the Chinese should have wanted to prevent the escape of their bioweapon to the west.
China sells to the west - it doesn't make sense to poison your customers. -
2020-04-18 at 4:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Two points:
Corona most likely escaped from a lab - if so, then the Chinese should have wanted to prevent the escape of their bioweapon to the west.
China sells to the west - it doesn't make sense to poison your customers.
you are forgetting that the lab was run in collaboration with americans and arsetrallians and probably other some other countries.
even if it did leaked from the lab, it could have been done by paid foreign agents, of chinese or non chinese origins.
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china sells anything the west wants to buy according to the principal of free market and trade, including tourists and harmless fentanyls. it is up the wisdom of chinas customers on what to import from china and how to utilize them without negative consequences.
did china put a gun to trumps, or anyone elses head for that matter head and say give us visa ? -
2020-04-18 at 4:48 PM UTC
