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So Republicans actually want welfare now
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2020-03-18 at 2:46 AM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Well, but we pay into SS G-man.
We pay into food stamps, unemployment, and healthcare too. It's all social welfare. Just like this stimulus package.
Literally calls it welfare in the social security act of 1935
https://www.ssa.gov/history/35act.htmlThe Social Security Act (Act of August 14, 1935) [H. R. 7260]
An act to provide for the general welfare by establishing a system of Federal old-age benefits, and by enabling the several States to make more adequate provision for aged persons, blind persons, dependent and crippled children, maternal and child welfare, public health, and the administration of their unemployment compensation laws; to establish a Social Security Board; to raise revenue; and for other purposes. -
2020-03-18 at 2:47 AM UTC
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2020-03-18 at 2:47 AM UTC
Originally posted by Erekshun I have paid my own money into SSI my whole life and when I retire I am a welfare recipient? Got damn I am posting in a retard thread! The government handing out cash that wasn't earned or paid for is welfare you ree ree's.
No when you paid into Social Security you were paying for other people. When you retire, that’s other people paying for you. You should do the world a favor and just off yourself when that time comes instead of being a drain on societyThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2020-03-18 at 2:48 AM UTCMnuchin said he wants it to start within 2 weeks due to the restaurants and bars closing.
First talk was for it to be a grand, but Nnuchin made it sound like more in the last press conference. -
2020-03-18 at 2:49 AM UTC
Originally posted by Fox No when you paid into Social Security you were paying for other people. When you retire, that’s other people paying for you. You should do the world a favor and just off yourself when that time comes instead of being a drain on society
You could have just said REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE -
2020-03-18 at 2:49 AM UTC
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2020-03-18 at 2:49 AM UTC
Originally posted by Fox No when you paid into Social Security you were paying for other people. When you retire, that’s other people paying for you. You should do the world a favor and just off yourself when that time comes instead of being a drain on society
This. It's not like some savings account. Other taxpayers are still paying for your ass.
You could make a similar argument about food stamps. I pay taxes that go towards funding food stamps, therefore I deserve food stamps and it isn't welfare. I pay taxes that go towards healthcare, therefore I deserve healthcare and it isn't welfare.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2020-03-18 at 2:50 AM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Mnuchin said he wants it to start within 2 weeks due to the restaurants and bars closing.
First talk was for it to be a grand, but Nnuchin made it sound like more in the last press conference.
I imagine it'll vary based on your income but idk. Would be unfair for UPS workers and the like to have to keep working with no free money while everyone else basically gets a vacation. Don't want to make the essential employees upset. -
2020-03-18 at 2:50 AM UTCDoes anyone here like butt?
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2020-03-18 at 2:51 AM UTC
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2020-03-18 at 2:52 AM UTCWell that doesn’t makes sense to me G. I get statements from SS telling me how much I’ve made and how much I’ve paid into SS annually.
It also has a section that tells me how much I’d get if I retire now, in 10 yrs., etc., etc. -
2020-03-18 at 2:52 AM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace I imagine it'll vary based on your income but idk. Would be unfair for UPS workers and the like to have to keep working with no free money while everyone else basically gets a vacation. Don't want to make the essential employees upset.
I saw somewhere the cap they’re looking at is like 75k/year, after that the more you make the less your check will be. -
2020-03-18 at 2:53 AM UTC
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2020-03-18 at 3:10 AM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Well that doesn’t makes sense to me G. I get statements from SS telling me how much I’ve made and how much I’ve paid into SS annually.
It also has a section that tells me how much I’d get if I retire now, in 10 yrs., etc., etc.
I mean, does it being a percentage of how much tax you paid really make it that much better? It's still a fraction of what you paid into it. Same as other forms of welfare.
It explicitly calls it welfare in the actual legal act I posted a link for if you want to look for yourself. It calls people on SS 'aged needy individuals.' Is welfare not all about helping the needy? I think it's really the only form of welfare that can work in this percentage way. You cant give an 18 year old food stamps or healthcare based on the taxes he's paid. That's why it's different. I guess you could argue that you earned it more or whatever but I don't think that matters. People have this negative connotation with the word welfare like it means you are desperate or is a shameful thing to ask for, but it's really not. At the end it's all the same thing: taxes going back to the people who need it most
Right now, a lot of Americans 'need it most.' Those who are not working due to the corona virus probably will stop working soon. We're going to need help from the government in one way or another, be it a stimulus package, unemployment insurance, or mandatory paid time off/sick leave. Let's not pretend that we are anything less than needy right now. That's what a government is for anyway, to help us and keep us safe.
Or it's supposed to be, anyway... -
2020-03-18 at 3:11 AM UTCLike everyone is actually getting a thousand dollars. Also, lmao at Mnuchin's trillion dollar stimulus package. Oh boy.
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2020-03-18 at 3:11 AM UTC
Originally posted by Fox I saw somewhere the cap they’re looking at is like 75k/year, after that the more you make the less your check will be.
I saw 100k but yeah. I wonder too if food industry people who are already out of work in a lot of places will get more money than others. A lot of people are still working you know. I certainly am. -
2020-03-18 at 3:13 AM UTCPosting in a retarded thread.
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2020-03-18 at 3:14 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie Like everyone is actually getting a thousand dollars. Also, lmao at Mnuchin's trillion dollar stimulus package. Oh boy.
The budget for this is 850 billion and it would take 357 billion to give everybody 1k. So it could feasibly happen, although you're right and I don't think it will. -
2020-03-18 at 3:15 AM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2020-03-18 at 3:16 AM UTC
