Originally posted by Sudo
You sound really informed
In fact I am. I’ve been exposed to AA and NA since childhood, and even then I knew it was a joke. #realtalk you’re never going to overcome any addiction if you refuse to take responsibility for your actions and make the necessary changes. Having a trusted friend, sober or otherwise, to talk to can and does help…but no one is lifting the bottle or pipe to your mouth or the needle to your arm but you. People relapse because they choose to relapse…..nothing more…nothing less.
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson
Additionally what kind of life lesson is it to suggest to people "Hey, put yourself in XXX hands rather than assume the responsibility yourself"…
Fucking millenials!
Absofuckinglutely correct.
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Whatever works for each individual works. No need to shove anything down anyones throat.
Some people do fine without the aid of a “program” probably way more than anyone is even aware of since there aren’t really any statistics surrounding those who clean up their lives on their own. Reality is most “programs” have a very low overall success rate.
As I said, no one’s holding a gun to anyones head forcing them to drink or use. People get clean and sober in a variety of ways. People also “relapse” and that’s their choice.
I’ve watched people brainwashed by these “programs” become literal self fulfilling prophecies…..they became so convinced that they’d literally die if they pick up, that they ultimately died as a result of their addictions. The program ingrained the message in these weak minded vulnerable individuals to the point that they literally ultimately killed themselves.
If you really want to be clean and sober you’ll do whatever it takes to achieve that goal. Program or no program. The problem I have with these “groups” is judgmental people selling the My Way or the Highway mentality. Literally brainwashing weak minded individuals into believing that if they don’t do exactly as the program is laid out they’re doomed to fail….
I think many actually bring failure on themselves because they literally believed that crock of shit.
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Originally posted by RIPtotse
You shoulda spit on them. Recovery comes from inside yourself not from sitting in a circle doing rituslistic magic and drinking coffee and planning when your next meeting will be for fuck sake.
Yup
The hard core groupies are like a cult
The meetings devolve into a “can you top this” discourse
If you want to quit…just quit. AA and NA are a joke
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