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2016-09-02 at 1:36 PM UTC in I hate women. Hate.
What was her reaction? You didn't really specify. Yeah, shit happens thats true but just randomly bailing on someone after making plans without atleast a half ass excuse is usually considered rude.
You know very little about me and choose to pass judgement that I'm a fat disgusting bitch.. Hmm. Well, if that makes you feel better about yourself, more power to you. Wonder what sort of trollish motherfucker you look like for me to get more attention from the opposite sex than you. Frankly, I wish I didn't get the attention I do get. I've always had poor self esteem issues regarding my body and honestly, I don't like a lot of things about myself, but I've never had trouble finding good looking men who think otherwise, so it really doesn't matter, now does it even if I am all you say? More importantly, unlike you, I am a genuinely good person who'd rather not tear people down or hurt their feelings for my own pleasure. What you have is a sickness, a jealousy of someone like me being able to find people that dolike me for who I am, outside and in. That ultimately that is why you're lonely and friendless- you've no regard for the things that go on inside others, and don't look past the surface, so when you dofind someone, you likely find the same sort of rot as you and get rejected for not meeting their physical standard of perfection. You miss a lot in life if you just read the cover of books rather than opening the pages. I pity people as shallow as you, you miss a great deal out of life.
Any excuse to talk about yourself, hey hydro? -
2016-09-02 at 1:13 PM UTC in I'm slowly turning into obbe"Oh no, I'm turning into Obbe," you lament, as if you've damaged your brain and are somehow becoming lesser, lower on the totem pole. I know I'm not as smart as some of you, and I know I'm a little more open to the paranormal and spiritual perspectives, but that doesn't mean I'm some sort of clown or joke to be laughed at.
If you are changing hopefully you change into someone who isn't such an asshole. -
2016-09-01 at 5:31 PM UTC in My life is boring.
I'm one semester away from a bachelor's degree from a university, have a boyfriend I love and have been with for almost two years, and a family that supports and loves me.
You weigh close to 300lbs, got knocked up a virgin who you you pulled a gun on, and from what I hear, even your pedophile of a husband doesn't want to be with you.
And I'm the dumb cunt?
honey please.
This is hilarious, I'll take sides, Hydro is basically on the same level as Bill Krozby as I see it. -
2016-08-31 at 1:28 PM UTC in YUMbourghini High
Many people know this to be true.
Like who? -
2016-08-25 at 8:04 PM UTC in When you've been sober for almost two months...So are you planning to do anything? Going to move out on your own and be a real person in the real world? Or are you just not really doing anything at all?
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2016-08-24 at 12:41 AM UTC in Do you think I'm a bad person?
It would be better to not base our moral decisions on emotions instead of logic. I don't think there would be a machine or system or anything, really. Emotions drive us as a species. Again, that sweet, sweet Dopamine. Evolution is an interesting thing. If we were able to engineer a perfectly efficient being that spreads the human gene and doesn't need emotions to be driven we would probably do that in the future. I'm just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point, though. I don't really have a strong opinion on this.
That's OK, I don't either, but I am enjoying the conversation. Moral decisions are emotional decisions; without emotion there is no reason or drive/instinct to see anything as right or wrong or good or bad. If the decision making process was based solely on logic we would instead decide what is illogical and what is logical, true or false, not what is right or wrong. But as I see it there's a problem with living that way. Without that sweet, sweet dopamine why do anything at all? Why bother spreading the human gene? Isn't suicide the most logical choice? After all there are no more human problems if there are no more humans. Even the pursuit of greater knowledge is logically seen as a waste of time and resources if we already know that it will all have been for nothing considering the universe will inevitably go cold leaving nothing. Isn't surviving just to survive is illogical? What's life without happiness? -
2016-08-23 at 11:38 PM UTC in Do you think I'm a bad person?
It isn't. They are also not opposites or mutually exclusive. You can be logical and derive great pleasure from that.
As long as you still have emotions to feel that pleasure with, yes, I agree that you can be logical and happy. I also agree they are not opposites or mutually exclusive, but I thought you were saying that it would be better if we didn't have emotions.There wouldn't be a need for slaves without the emotion of greed so no. Total nonsense.
It's not nonsense. Without emotions you would not do anything that makes you happy, you would not do anything personal, you would just be another cog in the machine doing whatever task was derived to be the most logical, which seems to be ending life itself. At least in this world I can be happy and enjoy my life even if those emotions are illogical or irrational, even if they lead to things like a subjective morality and all the shit that comes out of that, isn't that worth it?
But I am open to the possibility that I am wrong about this, let's say we modified humans to have no emotions and be purely logical. How's that better? What would we spend all our time doing? For what purpose? -
2016-08-23 at 8:44 PM UTC in Do you think I'm a bad person?I just don't understand how living life by logic alone could be more enjoyable then actually being capable of feeling joy and pleasure. Maybe you can explain that for me?
The universe does not have a greater meaning. Personally I like to think the point of this life is to be the best I can be and enjoy it as much as I can. But that's subjective. Maybe I'm wrong about that. Maybe there is something better. Maybe life would be better for everyone if we didn't experience any emotions at all. At least emotionless slaves don't care that they're slaves, right? Isn't that the logical conclusion to your line of thought? -
2016-08-23 at 8:16 PM UTC in Do you think I'm a bad person?
Dispute this. If morality wasn't subjective but an absolutely objective truth. If we all had the same morality and that morality was derived from logic we would live in an utopian world without clit cutting and race wars.
I'm talking about the way the world is, not how it "should" be. If humans were purely logical then we probably would all kill ourselves. -
2016-08-23 at 8:09 PM UTC in Do you think I'm a bad person?If the most logical solution to life is to end it, I'm kinda glad that emotions and a sense of morality exist in people even if it is subjective and people disagree about it. I enjoy being alive and experiencing the world.
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2016-08-23 at 7:48 PM UTC in Do you think I'm a bad person?Maybe you feel like it should not be subjective, but it is. Why should morality not be subjective?
Maybe you're getting morality right/wrong confused with factual true/false. Morality right is all about feelings - it is subjective, after all. If we really all agreed that logic trumps emotion wouldn't we all end up suicidal like Malice?
Wouldn't we all suicide because "life is suffering"? Isn't the reason you're still alive right now because it feels good? It feels right? Because logically there is no reason for us to exist at all. The universe is going to end one day and everything we might accomplish is for nothing. -
2016-08-23 at 6:53 PM UTC in Do you think I'm a bad person?
I actually asked the forum. You asked me if I think that I'm bad.
How can an illogical action be right? If you maintain by that, could you demonstrate it with an example?
Because morality is subjective. For example, religious beliefs may be illogical but for most people they feel right. -
2016-08-23 at 6:38 PM UTC in Do you think I'm a bad person?I can agree to that. But if that's true then maybe the question you should be asking yourself is not "am I good/bad" but "am I logical/illogical".
However I maintain that just because an action is logical doesn't always mean it is good. -
2016-08-23 at 2:48 PM UTC in Do you think I'm a bad person?Of course there could be logical arguments to smoking. If you want to get some sort of high, smoking some sort of drug is a logical step to attain that goal. If you hate every race but your own you might see genocide as a logical solution to your problem. But not everyone will agree that these actions are "right". That's because morality is subjective. You might think it should be objective, but it isn't. You might like to imagine that the logical answer is always the right answer, but I am sure you can imagine a scenario where you would actually disagree with that. Imagine if the entire world hated Germans. What's the logical solution? Get rid of the Germans! Is that a moral solution? Not everyone would agree that it is. Therefore morality is subjective.
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2016-08-22 at 6:34 PM UTC in The retarded thread: Fuck, §m£ÂgØL made one first editionEmpty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup.
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2016-08-22 at 5:20 PM UTC in Do you think I'm a bad person?
And yes, it is of course just all in our heads but the capability to think and apply logic to our actions is pretty sweet.
It is pretty sweet, my point is merely that the ability to do that has nothing to do with morality. Like you said, it's all in our heads. This is not to say that people who commit crimes should not be trialed, or that people who make mistakes should not try to correct them; of course they should! But rather obviously our sense of what is right and what is wrong is not based on logic, or anything objective. It's all in your head. Morality is subjective. So maybe it's more important that our actions towards each other are useful, helpful, compassionate, rather than "right or wrong" or "good or bad". -
2016-08-22 at 4:54 PM UTC in Do you think I'm a bad person?Well maybe you're right. Maybe right and wrong behavior can be decided logically and objectively. And maybe life would be better if we created a super human intelligence that was more logical than any human leader ever could be and just let it decide our fate for us.
On the other hand, a smoker could always say smoking isn't bad or wrong just because it's dangerous. If the smoker derived his decision to smoke something by logic he has a whole portfolio of rationally and logic decisions made before smoking something. If the smoker decided to just smoke because why not, I'm going to die. That would maybe not be wrong from a morality standpoint but incredibly stupid.
So I don't know. -
2016-08-22 at 4:30 PM UTC in Do you think I'm a bad person?You can use logic to determine if "moral" premises have valid conclusions. This doesn't tell you if moral statements are subjective or objective, useful or useless, and helpful or harmful. Logic pertains to the form of arguments and inferences, not the content. Logic could tell you, for instance, which moral maxims contradict which other moral maxims, or which follow from which, or which are internally inconsistent, and so on, but not what which ones are right. Logic can't tell us how things are in the world, what the facts are, and there are plenty of folks who hold that morality or ethics doesn't even concern any matter of fact, and/or are not the sort of thing that can be true or false at all.
If logic truly is the only way to determine if an action is right, would you mind demonstrating this in an example?
Smoking may be hazardous to a smokers health, does that mean it's wrong/bad? Mountain climbing may also be hazardous to a mountain climbers health, does that mean it's wrong/bad?
Personally I think that when it comes to morality the most logical conclusion is that morality is all in your head, nothing is absolutely right or wrong, an action just is what it is and we only attach the "right or wrong" label to it. -
2016-08-22 at 3:42 PM UTC in crack hooker wont stay off my lawn!! help?
… instead of making a thread about how clueless I am.
how to look for job guys? -
2016-08-22 at 3:16 PM UTC in Do you think I'm a bad person?I don't know about that. Isn't morality subjective? If it is, how can we use logic to determine if an action is right or wrong? Just because an action can be logical doesn't mean it is also "right".
