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2016-09-10 at 2:22 PM UTC in My sex life is like... (Trust me this is about nature)Isn't that normal?
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2016-09-09 at 10:56 PM UTC in What are you going to wear for Halloween?
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2016-09-09 at 9:43 PM UTC in had a good night tonightWhat time zone do you live in?
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2016-09-09 at 7:46 PM UTC in What would life be like with a world government?
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2016-09-09 at 5:16 PM UTC in I'm slowly turning into obbe
Something I've thought of is dropping something to the ground and asking "What meaning does this have?" in response to what may be my most hated question, "What is the meaning of life?"
Very zen. -
2016-09-09 at 4:55 PM UTC in I'm slowly turning into obbe
What you guys do is just a hobby. A hobby that will lead to nothing. Your ideas are lost.
It's a hobby that has led to insights that have improved my life. I consider that a win.
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2016-09-09 at 4:54 PM UTC in I'm slowly turning into obbe
Yes i am saying she would be wrong. And saying: "Oh no, but you see, it's a philosophical question". Is a slippery slope, because we could just as easily extend this to everything. Before long we'd call everything something else than what it actually is.
Ok, but consider this:There's nothing in the "definition of cat" (itself biologically somewhat ambiguous) that you'll find in a biology textbook that precludes a cat from being a person. Not that I think cats are people, but I'm not sure why personhood would even be a prerequisite for inclusion in a family anyway or why non-personhood would mean you have total inalienable property rights over a thing.
It might be a good idea to show some sort of reason as to why you believe she would be wrong. What makes a person a person? Is it possible for non-persons to become persons and vice versa? It wasn't very long ago that some of your fellow human beings were actually considered to not be persons. Now they are. And sometimes things like large corporations are considered to be persons. So why shouldn't a girl consider her cat to be a person?I can consider you a dumbass and you could consider me an idiot but that doesn't fundamentally impact our individual intelligence. And if calling X, Y doesn't change anything about X then what is the point? We should just call things by their names.
Calling a cat a person or a member of the family is an expression of the way the speaker experiences and interacts with that cat. It represents a difference in the way the speaker perceives and thus interacts with the person in comparison to non-persons. Isn't that sort of obvious? We do call things by their names as we experience them - some people experience their pet cat as a member of their family, or as a sort of cat-person.I would but i wouldn't consider it being me.
Ok but consider this:What does it mean to be a "continuation of your consciousness"? Presumably a sufficiently complex simulation could execute all your same mental activities in the same sequence as you today, we could even imagine it doing this in parallel in advance of the physical "you". I actually agree that such a simulation would be a different thing, have a different although isomorphic consciousness, but I'll argue that precludes physicalism. If subjective experience is reducible to physical states (the physicalist premise) then identical physical systems should have identical consciousness properties. Like if we say acceleration is reducible to mass and net force of a system then two physical systems with same net force and mass must experience the same acceleration, and yet you seem to admit here that two systems with the same physical properties (a perfect clone or a perfect simulation and yourself) would have different consciousness. So something has to be wrong, maybe the idea that you wouldn't share an internal experience with a clone or simulation is the mistake but that seems even more out there than the idea that consciousness is nonphysical.
From what I can tell you feel such a simulation would not be you because you would not be sharing the exact same subjective experience, or something like that, right? Like, the simulation and you could share the same memories, react the same way to events and questions, have the same thought patterns, but if you were sitting on the opposite side of the room as your simulation you would each be having a slightly different experience than the other. And of course, if we turned off the simulation, "you" would still exist.
Let's imagine a slightly different scenario. Lets say you had contracted some sort of rapid, degenerative brain disease and if we did not act quickly we would lose you forever. Imagine we have advanced technology, so advanced we could record all of your information, all your memories and neural connections and your entire "essence" essentially, and we could use nano technology to replace your dying brain tissue with an artificial substitute that could precisely simulate your "essence". Imagine we have the technology to do this quickly, painlessly and you are able to remain conscious for the entire procedure. You would almost feel like a fog has been lifted from your mind. Would you still consider yourself to be the same person afterward? Would you still be "you", even though you have an artificial brain running a simulation of your old organic brain patterns?You can remove anything you like, my consciousness would be the essence of my being i'd say. And if you remove my consciousness i stop existing. As far as i am aware at least
How would you define consciousness?
When you have an operation and become temporarily unconscious, do you temporarily stop existing? -
2016-09-09 at 3:21 PM UTC in I'm slowly turning into obbeI think it's somewhat human nature:
Tiger got to hunt,
Bird got to fly;
Man got to sit and wonder, "Why, why, why?"
Tiger got to sleep,
Bird got to land;
Man got to tell himself he understand.
You see, artists have a vocation to express their perceptions of hyperspacial realities from every point of view that man can reach, at every different time that man can live in, to provide us with handles on universal truths. All the myths and all the religions present us with different pictures of the same hyperspacial entity, and that entity is ourselves. Artists, scientists, and mystics who glimpse spirits dimly through the Veils of Maja limn a projection of the eternal entities into the human dimensions of literature, theatre, music, dance, architecture, engineering, philosophy, mathematics, justice, politics, morality --- in a word, culture. Like pictorial art, all cultural artifacts compress hyperspacial structures into fewer dimensions so that ideas are represented in more or less tangible forms. The form is the specialized language of its poet and the meaning of the form is the essence of the myth.
"Why are you guys doing this?"
All those posing unanswerable questions, or declaring that their questions can't be answered are not in the business of creating science, nor do they have any intention of informing the public; their real purpose is obscuring knowledge and confusing you in order that they may gain and hold their advantage over you. Rhetorical questions take many forms, and none are so beguiling as the scientific poser. Rhetoric manipulates automatic psychological reflexes so as to make the audience believe that the authority who cannot answer his own questions knows something that his audience doesn't know. -
2016-09-09 at 1:35 PM UTC in Im in a time of great renewal.Sex addiction?
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2016-09-09 at 1:10 PM UTC in I'm slowly turning into obbe
Oh no, not you Lanny! The last of the last, the rock upon which the oceans of BS crashed, the unbowed, the unbroken. Hear that sound? It's my soul crying out in anguish!
It's good to have an open mind, especially after being subjected to years to attacks (ie. hearing pascal's wager for the like 50th time…). I, too, know that hunger of spirituality, but I honestly can't cross the barrier. There's something sweet in accepting the truth, the minimal truth, and leaving everything in a constant state of painful uncertainty.
Well isn't that kind of what having an open mind means? It doesn't mean accepting crazy pseudo spiritual nonsense for no reason. Having an open mind is more like staying afloat in the sea. You have to relax to float. If you stiffen up and try to cling to your ideas about the nature of life, yourself and this universe, whether those ideas are spiritual based or science based, you will sink. But if you have an open mind, if you can relax and float on the surface, the truth will come to you whatever it turns out to be. -
2016-09-08 at 8:11 PM UTC in I'm slowly turning into obbe
See? So needs to be sectioned
If something about these posts actually bothers you don't read them.
How much of a human can be replaced by artificial parts before personhood is lost, if ever? If the brain is the reason people are considered persons, then if the human brain and all its thought patterns, memories and other attributes could also in future be transposed faithfully into some form of artificial device (for example to avoid illness such as brain cancer) would the patient still be considered a person after the operation? -
2016-09-08 at 5:43 PM UTC in simple easy ways to make moneyGet your hustle on:
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2016-09-08 at 4:42 PM UTC in The retarded thread: Fuck, §m£ÂgØL made one first edition
had to put a fuckin battery in the car, 118 bucks what a rip off
Fuckin' greasemonkeys, it ain't rite. -
2016-09-08 at 3:05 PM UTC in Can we seriously talk about how fucked it is that alcohol is legal?
And there being no limit to how much you can buy or posses. And alcohol advertising not being banned.
[h=1]If Beer Ads Were Forced to Be Honest - Beer Commercial Parody:[/h] -
2016-09-08 at 2:52 PM UTC in I'm slowly turning into obbe
I'd tell her to pick up a book on biology and research the definition of a cat. Furthermore, i can consider a pebble a sky scraper that still doesn't fundamentally change anything about the properties of the pebble.
So you're saying she would be wrong? What if she argued that personhood is a philosophical problem and not simply a matter of definition or isn't species dependent? What is wrong about that?
She can consider this cat to be a person and that doesn't fundamentally change anything about the properties of the cat, so why shouldn't she consider it to be a person?As long as it's not a continuation of my consciousness as i experience it, it is not me.
Would you consider that simulation to be a person?
If I were to remove your hands those hands would not be a continuation of your consciousness as you experience it, so would you still consider them to be "your hands"? How much of yourself can be removed/replaced before you're no longer you? In another thread you claimed what makes you who you are is your "essence". If I precisely simulated your essence using a machine yet you continued to deny that the simulation is you, then is there something else that makes you who you are? If so, what is it? -
2016-09-07 at 7:44 PM UTC in I'm slowly turning into obbe
1. My pet is my property.
2. A mountain is still a pile of rocks.
That's what i think about the ted talk.
OK, but if your girlfriend considered your pet to be a person or a member of your family would she be wrong about that, or is this more of a matter of perception?
If I were able to simulate your "essence" using some futuristic AI machine, would you consider that simulation to be a person? Would you consider the simulation to be another "you"? -
2016-09-07 at 5:20 PM UTC in I'm slowly turning into obbe
That's a really interesting article.
Yeah it is. Anything particular in it you want to talk about?
Check out the TED talk I posted after it. Tell me what you think about that. -
2016-09-07 at 5:17 PM UTC in Hacking StyleCan I ask why you do it?
I mean, is it profitable? Do you do it to make money? Or is it just something that you are interested in, like a hobby or game? Enjoy improving your skills? Or do you do it out of an ideological passion, as something you think should be done? -
2016-09-07 at 5:11 PM UTC in How often do you do drugs? Would you say you're an addict?
Beer seems out of character for you. What do you get out of it?
IME beer loosens people up, which is fun and like you said it's nice to kick back and relax with a drink. -
2016-09-07 at 3:49 PM UTC in Nothing's sexy anymore. Stupid fucking sluts.
Anyone ever notice how traps are better pornstars than actual women? Women don't know what turns guys on, they just think they do. That's why they're cheezy and boring as fuck. Fucking stupid CUNTS.
I've downloaded so many virtual reality porn programs but the technology just isn't there yet.
And now I'm trying to get off to fuckin' audio on reddit's gonewildaudio sub, but you just know the chicks behind these voices are fucking gigantic hogs.
I JUST WANT TO FUCKIN' FAP. I have one of the easiest fetishes too! Fuckin' CFNM… so I can literally fap to clothed women, and get off on it if I pretend I'm naked in front of them. FUCKING DUMB WHORES. FUCK.
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK.
Real question here: do you prefer masturbation over sex?
Your entire post is about masturbation and porn. I think women instinctually know how to turn on men; or, at least the women I have had sex with have known how to turn me on. Maybe you would have a better time if you had real sex instead of masturbation?
