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2016-12-14 at 11:02 PM UTC in Life is more interesting without scientific labelings
Originally posted by Sophie Stopped reading right there. Was it your mommy and daddy that taught you that? Or was it your priest? Did you also believe your priest when he said "body of Christ" as he rammed his cock into your little boy mouth?
Do you believe people who have spiritual experiences have significant differences in their brains that cause them to view the experiences as spiritual? Or is there another reason they are spiritual? -
2016-12-14 at 10:43 PM UTC in Life is more interesting without scientific labelings
Originally posted by mmQ Isn't a spirit in and of itself supernatural? Does it not discredit spirituality to suggest that it can be attributed to feeling ANYTHING just so long as you're not lying about it? Again I ask why can two people experience the same feelings and one claim to have a spiritual awakening and the other claim to have simply had a really good time?
No, I don't agree a spirit is in and of itself supernatural. I don't believe that would discredit spirituality because as I see it spirituality is a deeply personal and subjective thing. As a metaphor, someone with an unusual fetish might find a regular everyday experience to be sexual. A person without that fetish would not agree that it is sexual. That does not mean that one of those people are wrong, or stupid, rather they just view that experience differently. Similarly people who view an experience as spiritual are not necessarily wrong or stupid, they just view it differently.
Mq, would you label the experiences you refer to as spiritual? Why or why not? Do you think people who have spiritual experiences have differences in their brain? -
2016-12-14 at 7:35 PM UTC in Life is more interesting without scientific labelings
Originally posted by mmQ What's a genuine spiritual experience? What's a non genuine one? I have felt one with my surroundings on drugs and not in drugs, at church, at concerts, or alone. How could someone ever have a spiritual experience where they decide it was more than just a good experience and something supernatural? How can you know something is spiritual any more than you know that your dreams are natural despite the non-natural aspect of them?
I would say a non-genuine experience would be when someone is lying about it, they made it all up, are not being honest.
I don't believe anything is supernatural, I believe the natural world we live in is a spiritual world, but not everyone will see it that way. -
2016-12-14 at 7:16 PM UTC in Life is more interesting without scientific labelings
Originally posted by Sophie Probably not. What's more, i wouldn't know what it would take to give me a spiritual experience. I've done my share of psychedelics and have never experienced such a thing. The closest i think i've felt was a deep connection to the Earth, all life and the Universe. But there is nothing magical about that, since we are connected through our shared history. I am a part of the Universe as much as the Universe is a part of me. And we know that almost all life on Earth has a common ancestor if we look back in time far enough, we are made of the chemicals and compounds that make up the Earth and the Earth is made up of chemicals and compounds that were created in Super Novas and nuclear fusion in stars. We are of the Earth and the Earth is of the stars and the stars are of the Universe.
I personally know of no deeper spiritual feeling then what that realization, that connection, brings to me. In your eyes there may be no magic in that but I think, as I have said before, that is a matter of perspective. I don't think it's stupid or wrong to see the world in different ways as you and I do. Do you believe people who have a genuine spiritual experience have a significantly different brain then you do, or is it something else? -
2016-12-14 at 4:52 PM UTC in Life is more interesting without scientific labelings
Originally posted by Sophie I think it's funny how religious people treat atheism/science as a competing religion. I don't believe in God, not because anything proves God doesn't exist but the absence of any sort of indication or proof seems to suggest that there is no such thing as God. People who say: Prove God doesn't exist. Are retarded, logically speaking if the only evidence for God's existence is a lack of evidence for him not existing, then you haven't proven anything at all.
Furthermore, if i were to suppose God did in fact exist then i would say science, is the means by which we would understand God's design.
Post last edited by Sophie at 2016-12-14T15:36:25.416075+00:00
If you ever have a spiritual experience would it change your opinion despite lacking objective evidence, or would you believe you just had some sort of wire crossed in your brain? -
2016-12-13 at 7:16 PM UTC in Depersonalization/derealizationIt is interesting in a philosophical way.
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2016-12-13 at 7:05 PM UTC in Life is more interesting without scientific labelingsWhat is a spirit anyway?
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2016-12-13 at 12:27 PM UTC in The retarded thread: Fuck, §m£ÂgØL made one first edition
Originally posted by Malice I looked at over 20,000 pipes yesterday just to be certain I had made the optimal choice.
If you chose a tobacco pipe it was the wrong choice. -
2016-12-12 at 10:46 PM UTC in Depersonalization/derealizationI don't know, probably to some extent, please describe your experiences of this using as much detail as possible.
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2016-12-12 at 12:43 PM UTC in When are white people in the West going to go full holocaust on the mudslimes?I remember posting about this stuff months ago.
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2016-12-12 at 12:36 AM UTC in The retarded thread: Fuck, §m£ÂgØL made one first editionYou shouldn't smoke marijuana with a tobacco pipe. Just buy a good medium sized tube bong, a small glass pipe or a portable personal vaporizer.
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2016-12-11 at 6 PM UTC in Girl I've been seeing says she's pregnant.Good luck Bill Krozby. Keep your head clear, do the best you can, be a good man.
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2016-12-11 at 5:57 PM UTC in You'd expect God to send the messiah when there is technology to record and document his word.
Originally posted by Number13 In 2000 years will they still be able to read the information we have on our computers?
Depends. -
2016-12-11 at 5:55 PM UTC in the decline of western civilizationInteresting topic choice, needs more information though.
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2016-12-10 at 10:54 PM UTC in Psychedelics: A Most Sinister Plot
Originally posted by Sophie What are your views on evil Obbe, i sincerely want to know. Is evil a human creation? Or otherworldly? Or both?
I think it's a comlicated topic for sure. Stuff like good and evil or right and wrong is subjective. I don't believe any action is inherently or objectively right or wrong, good or evil. Things can appear to be right or wrong on a personal and subjective level, and I don't believe there is anything inherently wrong or incorrect about viewing the world in that way. However as social creatures our views extend out into society and affect other people. Therefore I think it is important to use logic and reasoning in how we moralize the world. If someone tends to behave violently it is probably in societies best interest to separate that individual. Society may label a violent sociopath as an evil person, and I think within the context of a normal human society, within that world, it would be an appropriate and acceptable label. In a broader context, seen objectively, nobody can truly be evil because the nature of evil is subjective. -
2016-12-10 at 8:45 PM UTC in Psychedelics: A Most Sinister Plot
Originally posted by reject Wait, are you e-blip and wrote the mirror in the stream thread??
No I'm not. Do you know own where I can find a copy of that though? I've tried searching for it a couple of times but I can't find it. -
2016-12-07 at 12:24 AM UTC in The retarded thread: Fuck, §m£ÂgØL made one first edition
Originally posted by Malice I also want a cool pipe now.
Not a bong? -
2016-12-06 at 4:53 PM UTC in Whats the deal with adults who watch cartoons?
Originally posted by greenplastic There are some cartoons, like south park, that joke about adult things, so it's funny to adults. But a lot of the adult swim type cartoons today (Bob's burgers, superjail, rick and morty, archer) don't even seem like they're meant to be funny. They're just cartoons, except they're marketed towards adults. I've tried to watch these shows and I just don't see any appeal to them. I don't get it.
Doesn't this apply to all TV and media, not just cartoons? -
2016-12-06 at 4:48 PM UTC in Should we use abstractions to view the self?Words are ultraspacial structures created by abstracting common features of significance while ignoring unique features. Words amplify similarities and eliminate differences by wave interference. Words are the product of fusing all the unique images of several structures into an ultraspacial gestalt.
The nemesis of abstraction is that the symbol becomes the reality, and the individual differences in the real world are occulted behind the Veils of Maja. As the focus of the mind shifts from the immediately tangible world to verbal concepts, the mind becomes separated from the body and both lose their health. Paradise is a myth about a preverbal Consciousness, before men created words and subsequently mistook the symbol (idol) for reality (God); the Fall of Man and his Expulsion is the consequence of worshipping verbally fashioned images. Philosophers pretend to lead us back to reality on ways paved with more words of higher abstraction, like devils promising to lead us to Heaven. -
2016-12-06 at 1:42 AM UTC in my apartment is totally fuckedPost pics?
