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Posts by Obbe

  1. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by lantiqua87 MY HOMIE TRANDON JAMES GOT SHOTIN DA SAME SCENARIO NIGGA

    I'll pour our some of my 40 Oz for Trandon.
  2. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Fox Paws John Dies at the End, you'd probably like it

    What's that about?
  3. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by greenplastic was he in the car or nah

    As far as I know nobody got hurt
  4. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by SCronaldo_J_Trump YES minedcraft is dope

    Then how come you never get on the server?
  5. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    I slept through it. It happened in my alley. There are some low-income housing units for niggas across the alley. Some of them are obviously criminals, drug dealers, gangsters. Someone did a drive-by shooting. Shot up some niggas car. I survived to tell you all.

    :33:
  6. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    "Freewill" by Sam Harris
  7. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Captain Falcon Nigger.

    Also I'm glad ur happy Obbe

    Want to play minecraft?
  8. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by SCronaldo_J_Trump he pm'd it to me too

    I thought you would I like it. I thought you would be all like, "whoa, that's chill bro".

    Instead you rat me out to officer bling.

    I thought we were neighbors, considering we live in the same hood together. Brothers in da hood.
  9. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    ^I had no idea, sorry officer bling.
  10. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
  11. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    How do i build roof?
  12. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Someone is clowning around.
  13. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    everyone is doomed
  14. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Lanny I'd consider myself to have as strong evidence for the consciousness of that machine as I had for other humans, so yes, I would operate on the assumption that machine was conscious. And I do think that's a physical possibility. I brought up the lack of subjective experience in modern computers not to say that it's impossible but that it represents a qualitative difference between computational power and consciousness: not every sufficiently fast computer is conscious ergo Moore's law does not carry us to AI by default.

    Do you define consciousness and subjective experience as the same thing?

    Originally posted by Lanny It practice I'll argue it tracks pretty closely to the animal kingdom, although there are certainly exceptional cases (as far as I know only in the direction of non-conscious animals rather than conscious non-animals). But all we have to satisfy this question is empirical investigation, I don't have a dogmatic commitment to some things being conscious and other not. Chalmers proposes this phrase "what is it like to be X" as our criterion for consciousness, like if we can't say something about what it would be like to be a thing that that thing can't be conscious. I think this runs the risk of being a little too inclusive, you can find a decent record of thought about what it's like to be various inanimate objects in the eastern tradition. "Does x have qualia" seems better to me, although perhaps it runs the risk of being tautological.

    What is it like to be a bat?

    Anyways, what are your reasons for assuming inanimate objects or even things like plants wouldn't have any subjective experience? Is "subjective experience" a trait that is supposed to be unique to highly evolved lifeforms, or could it possibly be something that is like an inherent quality of existing? Perhaps what you call "subjective experience" exists on a spectrum, with us in the center, stuff like rocks on the low end, and post-human beings exist on the high end. I mean, we evolved out of literal dust. We are basically just really complicated dust, that can walk around and think about ourselves. We have this really complicated way of experiencing the world but isn't it possible that the way we experience the world is just a highly evolved, highly complicated form of something that has always been there? I guess one question to ask yourself is why would subjective experience evolve out of nothing in the first place? Why would subjective experience pop into existence, seemingly randomly, if it wasn't already there in a a very basic way, that became more complicated as our existence became more complicated?
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  16. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by RisiR What is this dogshit? An Obbe thread?

    Shit, wrong account.
  17. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
  18. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Thе Self Taught Man Identity is a fickle topic. I had to figure that out on my own.

    What did you figure out?
  19. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Would you beat him with a shoe?

    Would you give up and huff glue?

    What would you do if your kid was a Sploo?
  20. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Originally posted by Lanny None direct, of course, but I can be certain that I have subjective experience and other people seem to the similar kinds of things as me, the simplest explanation of their behavior would seem to be that they, like me, have an internal experience that mediates their actions.

    So based on similarities you share with other humans, you assume they also have a subjective experience. If a machine could simulate a human so precisely that you could not tell it was actually a machine, would you consider it to have a subjective experience?

    I am guessing that you assume some animals also have a subjective experience, while their consciousness/mind probably isn't the same as at human level, they do seem to experience the world in a subjective way. Where does subjective experience stop? Can we imagine insects having a subjective experience? Plants? Single celled organisms? Minerals? What is the cut off point?



    Originally posted by Captain Falcon Well of course. That's why any given thing is one thing and not another. "You" is not a category. Why does identity mean for you?

    I think your identity is who/what you are, or maybe it's just who/what you think you are.
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