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2017-06-02 at 5:10 PM UTC in how can i transcend my ego?
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2017-06-02 at 3:02 PM UTC in how can i transcend my ego?See, it's like I said in the beta/beta thread. I try to tell the group the truth and get attacked.
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2017-06-02 at 11:54 AM UTC in how can i transcend my ego?
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2017-06-02 at 10:47 AM UTC in how can i transcend my ego?There is nothing to transcend. You don't swing a sword at a ghost you walk straight through it.
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2017-06-01 at 12:15 AM UTC in Are pedos monsters or just sick?
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2017-05-31 at 9:34 PM UTC in Are pedos monsters or just sick?
Originally posted by Sophie That's a good question because if i can convince you that it is a mutually beneficial exchange is the other person really harmed? They might technically be in some abstract sense, but if they are fine with it i don't think it would be particularly bad. Also, say you Obbe, later spoke to that same person and then convinced them that what they gave me was way more valuable than what they got in return would that not then make you just as bad?
Wouldn't that logic work as an argument for taxation? LoL I think what it books down to is that "bad" is somewhat subjective, violence or force are not the only way things are bad. Manipulation is usually considered to be a bad thing.
I wouldn't need to convince the person of anything if they all on their own at a later time realized you had manipulated them out of something they value.Well no, but it is along the same lines of having manners in public. In general you don't act like a dick, even though you could, and should be allowed to.
Isn't that the exact same as violence/force? It's not about manners, it's about doing what you believe is right. I'm not usually a violent person not because society says I shouldn't be or because it would be rude to be violent, I'm usually not a violent person because I think, at least most of the time, that violence is bad. Same with manipulating people.
Do you honestly think lying and manipulating people is a good thing? -
2017-05-31 at 8:50 PM UTC in Are pedos monsters or just sick?
Originally posted by Sophie I would rather not DOX myself thank you. Nice try FBI.
Ok. Anyway, as we were a discussing, if you manipulated someone into giving you something that they actually do value more than whatever you are giving them in exchange, is that not bad?
It appears that the initiation of force is not necessary for a behavior to be determined to be bad. People seem to consider manipulating the young or the old or the dumb a bad thing to do, and that's not just because society agrees. -
2017-05-31 at 6:13 PM UTC in Are pedos monsters or just sick?
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2017-05-31 at 6:09 PM UTC in Are pedos monsters or just sick?
Originally posted by Sophie Who determines value? If i can get you to give me something that i value very much in exchange for whatever it is that you desire even if it is something that other people would consider worthless then what does it matter?
I guess the same people that determine what is bad.
I agree that in your scenario that wouldn't matter, but if you manipulated someone into giving you something that they actually do value more than whatever you are giving them in exchange, is that not bad?Also, i know i am smarter than most people and i know i can probably con people into doing a lot for me but it is by the grace of my kindness that i do not.
By describing this behavior as kindness, it appears that you would describe the opposite behavior as unkind or mean, or bad. Therefore it appears that the initiation of force is not the only way a behavior becomes bad. People seem to consider manipulating the young or the old a bad thing to do, and not just because society agrees. -
2017-05-31 at 3:04 PM UTC in Are pedos monsters or just sick?
Originally posted by Sophie The initiation of force.
So for example if you could convince/manipulate someone into giving something very valuable to you in exchange for something not worth it (ripping them off), without using any force at all, that's not bad in your opinion?
Is taking advantage of a person that is not as smart as you are without using force but simply outsmarting them/manipulating them, you don't think that is bad?
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2017-05-31 at 11:50 AM UTC in Are pedos monsters or just sick?
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2017-05-30 at 9:21 PM UTC in Do you like Bill Krozby: the pollI don't hate him. In a way I feel bad for him. But I think he could and should try to be a better person.
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2017-05-30 at 9:17 PM UTC in Are pedos monsters or just sick?
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2017-05-30 at 9:07 PM UTC in Are pedos monsters or just sick?
Originally posted by Dargo What I want to know is: why don't you fuck lolis Sophie?
Obviously you're smart enough to figure out how to get away with it, and you could make sure you got consent, the girl was happy, etc.
So, seriously, why not?
IIRC he once mentioned having sex with a 12 year old while he was 18. -
2017-05-30 at 7:46 PM UTC in Are pedos monsters or just sick?
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2017-05-30 at 7:32 PM UTC in Are pedos monsters or just sick?
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2017-05-30 at 6:21 PM UTC in Are pedos monsters or just sick?From what I can tell the pro-pedo argument that Sophie proposes is that getting consent from the child makes it ok. The argument most people use to counter that children are not actually mature enough to give that consent.
I want to hear more opinions from more members on this. If a child gives consent is it still immoral? -
2017-05-30 at 2:12 PM UTC in Are pedos monsters or just sick?
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2017-05-30 at 1:53 PM UTC in Are pedos monsters or just sick?
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2017-05-30 at 1:52 PM UTC in Are pedos monsters or just sick?
