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Posts by Obbe
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2017-06-04 at 3:39 PM UTC in god kill me pleaseGod helps those who help themselves.
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2017-06-04 at 3:38 PM UTC in Kreepy fuckin kay is never coming back
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2017-06-04 at 3:26 PM UTC in Kreepy fuckin kay is never coming back
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2017-06-03 at 10:18 PM UTC in Oblivion is the best Elder Scrolls gameYou try Prey yet?
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2017-06-03 at 9:56 PM UTC in did bundy change my personality
Originally posted by RisiR † You said I got no mountains and no streets and then posted a picture of some fucking winter wonderland and told me to stop comparing… I don't even… you are such a fucking piece of shit, Obbe.
I'll go back to completely ignoring your dumb ass because you aren't even worth to be insulted and God knows I have done it enough times already.
Let go of your anger and stop being retarded. You literally have nothing to be upset about. -
2017-06-03 at 9:55 PM UTC in did bundy change my personality
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2017-06-03 at 9:48 PM UTC in did bundy change my personality
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2017-06-03 at 4:31 PM UTC in did bundy change my personality
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2017-06-03 at 4:17 PM UTC in did bundy change my personality
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2017-06-03 at 4:02 PM UTC in did bundy change my personalityIf you want to be a better person do better things, start right now.
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2017-06-02 at 9:01 PM UTC in Ding Dong the Bitch is DeadAnyone know why he was banned and why he nuked the account?
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2017-06-02 at 5:10 PM UTC in how can i transcend my ego?
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2017-06-02 at 3:02 PM UTC in how can i transcend my ego?See, it's like I said in the beta/beta thread. I try to tell the group the truth and get attacked.
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2017-06-02 at 11:54 AM UTC in how can i transcend my ego?
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2017-06-02 at 10:47 AM UTC in how can i transcend my ego?There is nothing to transcend. You don't swing a sword at a ghost you walk straight through it.
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2017-06-01 at 12:15 AM UTC in Are pedos monsters or just sick?
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2017-05-31 at 9:34 PM UTC in Are pedos monsters or just sick?
Originally posted by Sophie That's a good question because if i can convince you that it is a mutually beneficial exchange is the other person really harmed? They might technically be in some abstract sense, but if they are fine with it i don't think it would be particularly bad. Also, say you Obbe, later spoke to that same person and then convinced them that what they gave me was way more valuable than what they got in return would that not then make you just as bad?
Wouldn't that logic work as an argument for taxation? LoL I think what it books down to is that "bad" is somewhat subjective, violence or force are not the only way things are bad. Manipulation is usually considered to be a bad thing.
I wouldn't need to convince the person of anything if they all on their own at a later time realized you had manipulated them out of something they value.Well no, but it is along the same lines of having manners in public. In general you don't act like a dick, even though you could, and should be allowed to.
Isn't that the exact same as violence/force? It's not about manners, it's about doing what you believe is right. I'm not usually a violent person not because society says I shouldn't be or because it would be rude to be violent, I'm usually not a violent person because I think, at least most of the time, that violence is bad. Same with manipulating people.
Do you honestly think lying and manipulating people is a good thing? -
2017-05-31 at 8:50 PM UTC in Are pedos monsters or just sick?
Originally posted by Sophie I would rather not DOX myself thank you. Nice try FBI.
Ok. Anyway, as we were a discussing, if you manipulated someone into giving you something that they actually do value more than whatever you are giving them in exchange, is that not bad?
It appears that the initiation of force is not necessary for a behavior to be determined to be bad. People seem to consider manipulating the young or the old or the dumb a bad thing to do, and that's not just because society agrees. -
2017-05-31 at 6:13 PM UTC in Are pedos monsters or just sick?
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2017-05-31 at 6:09 PM UTC in Are pedos monsters or just sick?
Originally posted by Sophie Who determines value? If i can get you to give me something that i value very much in exchange for whatever it is that you desire even if it is something that other people would consider worthless then what does it matter?
I guess the same people that determine what is bad.
I agree that in your scenario that wouldn't matter, but if you manipulated someone into giving you something that they actually do value more than whatever you are giving them in exchange, is that not bad?Also, i know i am smarter than most people and i know i can probably con people into doing a lot for me but it is by the grace of my kindness that i do not.
By describing this behavior as kindness, it appears that you would describe the opposite behavior as unkind or mean, or bad. Therefore it appears that the initiation of force is not the only way a behavior becomes bad. People seem to consider manipulating the young or the old a bad thing to do, and not just because society agrees.