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2018-03-08 at 7:11 PM UTC in How Plants Communicate and Think
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2018-03-08 at 7:10 PM UTC in How Plants Communicate and Think
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2018-03-08 at 6:41 PM UTC in How Plants Communicate and Think
Originally posted by greenplastic How do you define communication, open your mind? Is it the exchange of information? If I'm playing pool, and I hit the white ball and it transfers some energy to another ball that it hits, would it be accurate to say that the balls are communicating?
When I push air through my vocal cords in a specific pattern and you hear those sounds and interpret that information, is that fundamentally different than a plant sending information to other plants using chemicals and the analogous senses these lifeforms use to detect said chemicals?
Originally posted by Fox Paws I’ll answer your question with a question. Just to establish a baseline.
What does it mean for something to be “alive”? Basically what are the characteristics you would use to differentiate, say, a dog from a brick?
Can you just answer the question I asked you first? I mean we can talk about what life means and how we define it later. First I want to talk about plant intelligence and why you think intelligence cannot be applied to plants, even after considering the cited findings in this thread. -
2018-03-08 at 4:52 PM UTC in How Plants Communicate and Think
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2018-03-08 at 4:46 PM UTC in How Plants Communicate and ThinkThe word intelligence derives from the Latin intelegere; to choose between. In situations of choice if the decision made after assessment is beneficial, it is considered to be an intelligent decision. Legg and Hutter (2007) collected some 70 different definitions of intelligence and summarized them as follows. Intelligence: (i) Is a property that an individual has as it interacts with its environment or environments. (ii) Is related to the agents ability to succeed or profit with respect to some goal or objective. (iii) Depends on how able the agent is to adapt to different objectives or environments.
In the same numerical order. (i) Wild plants interact with and respond to their environment via competitive and other biotic and abiotic signals. (ii) The goal or objective is fitness with seed number as a fitness proxy. Those most successful, and thus most fit, provide more offspring. (iii) Fitness depends on the skill with which individuals best adapt to their environment throughout their life cycle (McNamara and Houston, 1996). Those individual plants that can master and adapt to the problems of competition, master other biotic and abiotic stresses with greater plasticity, lower cost, higher probability, or more rapidly, are fitter and on this basis are more intelligent. Finally intelligence is a capacity for problem solving, (the psychologists choice) and profiting from experience another (Jennings, 1923; Gardner, 1983; Sternberg and Detterman, 1986; Sternberg, 1986). All effectively say the same thing.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4845027/ -
2018-03-08 at 4:42 PM UTC in My cat fucked up his leg.
Originally posted by Fox Paws “You” don’t know anything. “You” don’t exist.
Also your cat is not six months old. Age is an illusion. Age would imply that your cat is something unique that only began existing at a certain point in time. The matter that constitutes your cat has been around since the beginning of time, just like everything else.
In other words, everything is the same age, thus “age” means nothing.
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2018-03-08 at 4:40 PM UTC in Captain Falcon, desperate to fit in.
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2018-03-08 at 4:37 PM UTC in My cat fucked up his leg.
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2018-03-08 at 4:36 PM UTC in My cat fucked up his leg.
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2018-03-08 at 4:32 PM UTC in How Plants Communicate and Think
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2018-03-08 at 4:31 PM UTC in How Plants Communicate and Think
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2018-03-08 at 4:30 PM UTC in How Plants Communicate and Think
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2018-03-08 at 1:55 PM UTC in How Plants Communicate and Think
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2018-03-08 at 12:30 PM UTC in How Plants Communicate and Think
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2018-03-08 at 1:07 AM UTC in How Plants Communicate and Think
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2018-03-08 at 12:53 AM UTC in How Plants Communicate and Think
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2018-03-08 at 12:48 AM UTC in My cat fucked up his leg.That's just the camera angle I guess. He seems normal sized for his age to me, or maybe even on the small side.
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2018-03-08 at 12:47 AM UTC in How Plants Communicate and Think
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2018-03-08 at 12:44 AM UTC in My cat fucked up his leg.
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2018-03-07 at 11:32 PM UTC in My cat fucked up his leg.Yesterday after work my 6th month old kitten, Jamarcus, was found with his front right leg caught underneath a door in my kitchen. He must have been trapped like that for hours 'cause he peed on the floor. His leg was unbelievably swollen.
Took him to the animal hospital. He didn't break any bones but he has been limping since then. He is on a painkiller and an anti inflammatory for the next couple days. I can take a picture if you want to see him.
I hope he heals up good. Blocked off that door so he doesn't get stuck again when I'm not home.
