Originally posted by cerakote
he argued that the blackhawks were armed with miniguns, which may or may not be true. most likely, it was a misnomer by the faggot liberal media and it was actually an M240, which is a single barreled MG, but even if they were meaning a minigun as in the 6 barreled m134, he would still be correct
i cited evidence to support my argument and you have none
my point can be further supported by looking at the dates the mexican government purchased the blackhawks and when the armament of them was changed from the m60d to the m240d or m134
you cant refute a point by "what kind of [7th grade-tier vulgar descriptor] are you saying? ur so stupid u dont know what ur talking about lole"
also, concerning the caliber of the weapon, it doesnt appear that 7.62x45 even exists for MGs (the vz58 shoots this cartridge but i couldnt find anywhere saying that the mexican military uses this, their main service rifle shoots 5.45x39). with that being said, the nato round used in mostly all us weapons is 7.62x51. the bullet is smaller in a 7.62x45, but the diameter of the cartridge is the same, so assuming that this catridge would possibly be in their MGs, it would fire. its no bigger than the caliber it was originally chambered in, so it wouldnt obstruct anything, and its the same diameter so it would still be able to be loaded into belts for the nato round.
an example of this is the .357 and .38 caliber rounds. sure, theyre different lengths, but a revolver chambered in .357 can still shoot a .38 caliber bullet. and as long as the cylinder for a .38 revolver was long enough to take a .357 bullet, it could shoot it just fine
also, the m240d is the only variant made for aircraft
Post last edited by cerakote at 2017-02-16T05:00:12.413056+00:00
Post last edited by cerakote at 2017-02-16T05:07:20.070998+00:00
based on everything you've posted...especially after that post I made explaining my experience, which should at the very least have caused you to temper your replies...I have absolutely nothing to say to you other than: you're an idiot. youre a sniveling, runny-nosed, insignificant, high-school bee-bopper and have the audacity to reply to my posts...much less attempt to contradict them. youre banned from replying to me.
to everyone else that read what that idiot posted, don't take heed to any of it. that idiot doesn't have half a clue when it comes to firearms or ballistics in any regard...much less their real world applications.
- as ive already stated in a previous post. as of the date/time listed in the post, the messycans have not officially released any information on the aircraft or weapon used. meaning...no one knows.
- the messycans get most of their arms from nato/the US. that being the case, there is commonality between what we use...and what they use. case in point, the round for their primary service weapon, as that of the US, is the 5.56x45...or similarly the civilian version, .223 remington. this round is commonly used in the m249...a 'light' machine gun. there is a multibarreled gun that fires this round, however it is not currently issued. the 7.62x51...or similarly the civilian version, .308 winchester...is the round used in heavier machine guns (m240) or/and when more boom is required. it IS NOT used by nato in 'mostly all its weapons.' messyco also uses this round frequently. the former Warsaw pact...and by association, Russia...uses the 5.45x39 round in their primary rifles...with the 7.62x54 being the round they use in roles where more umph is required...such as their heavier machine guns. this is similar to the relation in nato between the 5.56x45 and 7.62x51. the russians also use 7.62x39 but not as widely as they did before the 5.45x39. despite the similarly in both the nato and russian nomenclature for their rounds (7.62) that means nothing...it's just the name. the russian bullets are actually .310 to .312 diameter (they are made by so many different countries... they all do their own thing)...while nato bullets are .308 diameter.
note: as per the statement made by the idiot, MEXICO DOES NOT USE THE 5.45x39 AS THE CALIBER FOR ITS PRIMARY INDIVIDUAL WEAPON. messyco does, in fact, use the 5.56x45 as the caliber for its primary individual weapon. this is another case of a poster who is unfamiliar with real life usage of things that go boom mistaking simple numbers and attempting to pass them off as valid information. to rehash:
5.56x45 is the caliber used by nato in the primary individual weapon.
5.45x39 is the caliber used by russia/former warsaw pact in their primary individual weapon
the 7.62x45 isn't used by anyone. the first retard that claimed this round was what fired by the messycan helio-copter did so because of lack of familiarity with non-airsoft guns and he mixed up the nomenclature of the '7.62' and '45' causing the idiocy to spiral out of control.
the a analogy the idiot used with 357 vs .38 is atrocious as well as dangerous to anyone that doesn't know any better. you cant go around willy-nilly stuffing the wrong caliber round into a rifle/pistol. bad things always happen. a .38 and .357 are almost physically identical. the most significant difference is the propellant used. in a 357 the propellant is 'more powerful' in that it produces much higher pressures than the .38 is rated at. shooting a .38 in a .357 is fine...the low-pressure .38 won't exceed the rated pressures of the firearm. shooting a 357 in a 38 has the potential to cause a catastrophic failure of the firearm and most likely...someone putting their eye out.
in summary: the poster i replied to is an idiot and any anything it ever posts should always be ignored.
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