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2024-05-25 at 10:57 PM UTC in MulticWhore Processing: Gay?Is this about computers or faggots?
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2024-05-25 at 7 PM UTC in Some of you people are quite miserable.
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2024-05-25 at 6:55 PM UTC in Some of you people are quite miserable.
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2024-05-25 at 6:37 PM UTC in Some of you people are quite miserable.
Originally posted by Bradley Cool welcome to our forum. As far as techs and chemistry goes, we have 1 retarded bitch in Ireland who struggles to understand ionic and covalent bonds, we have 1 retarded ratfaced tranny fucker who likes meth and collecting the recipes to get around to studying later, 1 pyrotechnics guy went to prison for a large explosion of a dam and the rest of us are pretty much ignorant of fine chemistry knowledge.
That being said we all are united in degeneracy and I think you'd fit in nicely but your search for greater esoteric knowledge will be as fruitless as it is frustrating.
Welcome!
A bunch of space nigga degenerates. Btw what’s the history behind the website name lmfao. Been trying to figure it out. -
2024-05-25 at 3:12 PM UTC in Some of you people are quite miserable.
Originally posted by Bradley Folks, I pray to God every night if I ever go to sleep hating on another man then please don't let me wake up.
I can't imagine the DEEP hatred some of you feel to people you only know online, I don't even hate people I know IRL lol
can't imagine fuys, can't imagine
I joined this forum in search of chemistry advice and struck a gold mine. I have no idea what the fuck is going on half the time but I’m here for it I guess. -
2024-05-24 at 11:23 PM UTC in Donald Trump is a bad man for lying about the 2020 election butwhichever candidate makes the importation of Chinese research chems easier and the deportation of the illegal cucks more widespread
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2024-05-24 at 11:07 PM UTC in Mysterious Glassewareit’s a form of dimroth condenser. Never seen one quite like that but I’m fairly certain that’s what it is.
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2024-05-24 at 11:02 PM UTC in MDMB-4en-PINACA Synthesis
Originally posted by Bradley I was on EU as well.
Fuck bathsalts man. Killed the party for everyone. I remember being jacked up on some bullshit pentylone tweaking out when I read that the feds had ek compromised. Nuked all my hard drives. Lost so much information but I like to think I saved some jail time. -
2024-05-24 at 8:32 PM UTC in Mysterious Glassewaregiant meth bong sent to you from the meth gods
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2024-05-24 at 8:24 PM UTC in MDMB-4en-PINACA Synthesis
Originally posted by Buff Billy Yeah this is the first time I'm hearing of it. I figure most "research chems" aren't widely made in the civilized world because it's usually some multi stage bullshit with very little literature besides old patents written by REAL PROFESSIONALS. The Asians are much more suited to making this shit.
I read that they sell "chemistry kits" of the exact chemicals you mentioned, that's funny as hell. I wouldn't trust those shifty Chinese at all. I don't know how you would be able to tell MDMB-INACA apart from something similar, I found a MSDS for MDMB-5Br-INACA but that has even less info
I can't even find what it's melting point is. It doesn't sound very stable according to this, maybe they sold you expired product.
It’s a possibility that either the precursor is expired, or that it isn’t actually MDMB-INACA and it’s some other crazy noid precursor thats yielding an entirely different product. I’m gonna run GCMS on my last batch to see if I get a match with anything in CAS system. Ya never know, I might have just made something brand new with this reaction lmfao. -
2024-05-24 at 6:50 PM UTC in MDMB-4en-PINACA Synthesis
Originally posted by Buff Billy Have you heard of the vespiary? It's a Chem forum and I think they would be able to help you better than anyone here.
Yea but hasn’t helped much. I have posted on several forum pages looking for help but haven’t got much. Very little information around these new gen noids. Older ones (JWH and AM series) are a lot easier to find synthesis information on. I’ve had so much trouble with these new gen noids that are ultra potent and get unstable due to the lack of information of them. It’s crazy how much the spice game has changed. Been around and fooling with synthetics since the days of euphoric knowledge. Ah man the good ole days. -
2024-05-24 at 4:40 PM UTC in MDMB-4en-PINACA Synthesis
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2024-05-24 at 3:45 PM UTC in MDMB-4en-PINACA SynthesisThis is my third attempt at this synthesis. Every time I have ended up with an oily type
Liquid and that has not crystallized. My
Main precursor and base of the reaction is MDMB-INACA (which is getting harder and harder to obtain as Chinese suppliers have stopped producing).
I see varying reaction temperatures, ranging from 60-80°C, along with varying reaction times, ranging from 2-5 hours total stirring at these heats.
Does anybody know what the ideal conditions are for this reaction?
Potassium carbonate is highly insoluble in DMF, at least at room temperature (lit says solubility is 7.5g of K2CO3 per 1000ml of DMF at 25c), but I’ve also noticed from performing many ADB-BUTINACA syntheses, that much of the k2co3 remains undissolved throughout the reaction even at 80-90°C
The adbb syntheses seem to work just fine without K2CO3 being completely dissolved.
I just thought yield could be improved if K2CO3 was fully dissolved in the solution but perhaps it's not necessary
Wouldn’t the dissolution of k2co3 only not matter if it was simply acting as a scavenger, which if I’m not mistaken is not the primary function of k2co3 in this reaction?
I see varying ranges for the amounts of solvent (2-3L DMF), amounts of 5-bromo (465g-515g), and amounts of k2co3 (700g-856g)
using equimolar amounts of MDMB-INACA and 5-bromo-1-pentene should indicate the use of about 515g 5-bromo per kg MDMB-INACA (apprx. 3.5mol) — should I be using a molar excess of 5-bromo, an excess of MDMB-INACA, or is equimolar fine?
should I be leaning more towards 2 or 3 liters of DMF?
will a heavy excess of k2co3 affect the reaction? 700g is already a significant molar excess (apprx. 5.2mol), I know excess will enhance the reaction rate by providing more hydroxide ions, but what about the possibility of competing elimination reactions or altering the regioselectivity of the reaction?
Will water mess up the reaction? Is using anhydrous k2co3 / DMF very important?
I’ve seen some have issues with crystallization of the final product, only being able to obtain oily residues when using ice water for the final crystallization step straight from the reaction mixture (method 1, seen in my write-up below), as opposed to extracting twice with DCM, concentrating to dryness under vacuum, & recrystallizing from anhydrous ethanol (method 2) — has anyone here been able to obtain solid product from the first method? (procedures described in my write-up below)
I’m aware that many Chinese labs have stopped producing the main ingredient MDMB-INACA, though the vendor I’m working with seems to offer it although they won’t give any IUPAC name or Cas no. for it. Is it likely that they are actually selling me a completely different precursor than MDMB-INACA that still works to produce a noid with this procedure?
Another user has told me "You are right that reacting it with 5-bromo-1-pentene yields 5cl, impossible to crystallize, and I have reported having reacted the same precursor with 1-bromo-5-fluoropentane and obtaining a stronger product, and I presume it is 1971007-89-2, the S- isomer (or possibly racemic mixture)”
my question is, would replacement of 5-bromo-1-pentene with 1-bromo-5-fluoropentane not yield 5F-MDMB-PICA? (this is what a Chinese vendor told me)
Anyone with experience regarding the synthesis of noids would be helpful. I can’t manage to yield high quality crystals and not this fucking oily bullshit. -
2024-05-24 at 2:58 PM UTC in What do you think of MAGA communism?
