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Paris Olympics 2024 is Babylon
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2024-08-14 at 2:27 PM UTC
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2024-08-14 at 3:18 PM UTC
Originally posted by ner vegas interesting topic
the Greeks believed that good and beauty were linked, that good things were beautiful and beautiful things were inherently good.
this is like a conscious effort to normalise ugliness, to stifle aspiration to beauty and goodness
I’m all for batshit social control conspiracy theories, but in this case it seems like the stated goal of inclusivity explains the situation wholly satisfactorily. Like ugliness (or at least what is perceived as ugliness in the dominant perspective) is elevated in the commons to normalize it as non-ugly not to corrupt but just to garner acceptance for people that look that way. I mean it’s the same old overton-window-shifting logic that you see a lot of in modern liberal social politics, and I’d argue it’s confused and a fundamentally illiberal strategy to effect change, but I think the logic behind it is clear enough that we don’t need to invoke evil media controlling cabals to explain it. -
2024-08-14 at 3:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny I’m all for batshit social control conspiracy theories, but in this case it seems like the stated goal of inclusivity explains the situation wholly satisfactorily. Like ugliness (or at least what is perceived as ugliness in the dominant perspective) is elevated in the commons to normalize it as non-ugly not to corrupt but just to garner acceptance for people that look that way. I mean it’s the same old overton-window-shifting logic that you see a lot of in modern liberal social politics, and I’d argue it’s confused and a fundamentally illiberal strategy to effect change, but I think the logic behind it is clear enough that we don’t need to invoke evil media controlling cabals to explain it.
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2024-08-14 at 3:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny I’m all for batshit social control conspiracy theories, but in this case it seems like the stated goal of inclusivity explains the situation wholly satisfactorily. Like ugliness (or at least what is perceived as ugliness in the dominant perspective) is elevated in the commons to normalize it as non-ugly not to corrupt but just to garner acceptance for people that look that way.
That can be the case a lot of the time, and is good and to be encouraged. Same thing goes for diversity, gay acceptance, etc.
I think the problem is that certain bad actors dial the whole thing up to 11 in order to attack normal people.
Then it ceases to be benevolent, and it's just another battle front in the culture war, and the purpose of war isn't to benefit the weak, it's to destroy and humiliate your enemy.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2024-08-14 at 3:30 PM UTC
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2024-08-14 at 3:32 PM UTC
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2024-08-14 at 3:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by Donald Trump Obviously the whole gay thing should be discouraged when it comes to kids, but if someone is determined to be gay what can you do other than accept them?
Um not accepting them seems the obvious response.
Again though..."force feeding" it isn't acceptance...I couldn't give a fuck if faggots want to be faggots...I just don't need to see it or have it fed to me in a manner that is clearly trying to garner my approval.
It's as dumb as those idiots that block the roads or throw paint on a piece of art...they're not winning any votes by doing that dumb shit. -
2024-08-14 at 3:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker
I mean to be honest I’m not really opposed to more ugly people being represented in media. As a person of middling looks I’m down with people that look like me or just generally look like real human beings being used to represent real human beings.
The dramatic over representation of trans people and ethnic minorities can be a little weird. But in general I just don’t really give a shit about advertisements and have enough of a life that it doesn’t upset me one way or the other.
My only point though is that there’s not some big mystery here. Go ask liberal people why trans are on TV all the time and they’ll just tell you. There is no need for a conspiracy theory to explain it. -
2024-08-14 at 3:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny My only point though is that there’s not some big mystery here. Go ask liberal people why trans are on TV all the time and they’ll just tell you. There is no need for a conspiracy theory to explain it.
They tell you it's to promote diversity and acceptance.
..which again is "force feeding".
in a truly neutral world the only people appearing in media would be doing so with a valid reason to be there, relevant to the topic and skilled in the "art".
Having a black snow white because "uh diversity" vs "uh she was the best actress who nailed the role" has no validity. -
2024-08-14 at 3:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Again though…"force feeding" it isn't acceptance…I couldn't give a fuck if faggots want to be faggots…I just don't need to see it or have it fed to me in a manner that is clearly trying to garner my approval.
Hah, I was talking to lala about this the other day. In San Francisco, gayest city on earth, there’s this interesting phenomenon where if you talk to gay guys over a certain age many of them have this kind of almost-conservative mindset. Like they feel like social justice initiatives have pushed their culture into the spotlight which provokes reactionary sentiment. They’d rather just have their low key enclave and be left alone rather than forced into a culture war. -
2024-08-14 at 3:44 PM UTCI'm not a fan of politicizing social issues really.
which came first the faggot or the liberal etc? -
2024-08-14 at 4:37 PM UTCBenjamin Franklin was considered a liberal in his day. He would run from the neo-liberal trash contemporary ideology.
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2024-08-15 at 5:30 PM UTC
Originally posted by Donald Trump Obviously the whole gay thing should be discouraged when it comes to kids, but if someone is determined to be gay what can you do other than accept them?
the tallybuns, and the inquisitions before them, have a good working solution.
i dont see any justification, moral or otherwise, why should the society accept an adult mans desire to have sex with another adukt man but reject another adult mans desire to have sex with an adult woman that hasnt reach a certain arbitrary age like 18. -
2024-08-15 at 7:24 PM UTC
Originally posted by Charles Ex Machina the tallybuns, and the inquisitions before them, have a good working solution.
i dont see any justification, moral or otherwise, why should the society accept an adult mans desire to have sex with another adukt man but reject another adult mans desire to have sex with an adult woman that hasnt reach a certain arbitrary age like 18.
Tell that Jason Vukovich when he's released soon.
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2024-08-15 at 7:36 PM UTCfacial abuse is soodom and gomorrah.
