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Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanks

  1. Originally posted by Speedy Parker I'm sure there were people in the 40s who viewed Paris as a German city. I guess you're no smarter that they were.

    texas is still a mexhican state.
  2. Originally posted by aldra I dunno, it's hard to find solid information on the application. From what I've heard secondhand it seems to be populated by a smartphone app or a dedicated terminal; each unit has at last one and it automatically tracks their movements. If a unit is destroyed it's probably up to the central team to update their status or remove them from the list, and who knows if/when that gets done

    my view is that its another one of those expensive toys supplied by the US to keyyev with no real useful purpose at the expenses of US tax payers.

    present and future tax payers.
  3. Speedy Parker Black Hole
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny texas is still a mexhican state.

    Did you think that would upset someone?
  4. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny my view is that its another one of those expensive toys supplied by the US to keyyev with no real useful purpose at the expenses of US tax payers.

    present and future tax payers.

    it's the case for a lot of the gear they send, but they actually appear to be using it given how much data is on display. No idea how up to date or complete it is of course.

    they actually ran press conferences a few months back, showing off that they were way more high-tech than the Donbabweans, which is why the system was targeted in the first place
  5. Originally posted by aldra it's the case for a lot of the gear they send, but they actually appear to be using it given how much data is on display. No idea how up to date or complete it is of course.

    they actually ran press conferences a few months back, showing off that they were way more high-tech than the Donbabweans, which is why the system was targeted in the first place

    just because the AFU is using it doesnt mean its effective or useable. AFU used a lot of NATO supplied arms like javeline anti tanks but we all know theyre not reliable nor effective as advertised.

    delta could be another one of those things. highly publicised like HIMARS, yes, but useable and up to date ?

    i dont think so.
  6. edit : bottom line, if it works, the russians would keep it a secret while they keep leeching valuable intels from compromised ukrainian system.

    the fact that they show it to the world to score PR point means that the system is absolute garbage and useless from tactical and strategic standpoint.
  7. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Oh yeah, I have no idea given how little I can find about the software. I mean it appears that it's being actively used, so if it's been hacked it's actually a very serious data leak. If they're forced to stop using it it's even worse because they need to rely on something else for planning and co-ordination.

    On the topic of HIMARS, turns out a large majority of their projectiles get shot down by PANTSIR's cheap anti-drone munitions; for all the talk of it being an 'advanced weapons system' the missiles it uses are still ballistic and relatively slow.

    When I first heard about HIMARS I looked at the stats and couldn't work out why they were being talked up so much, considering Ukraine already had SMERCH launchers with bigger missiles, bigger salvos and roughly the same range. The benefit comes from the fact that they're significantly more mobile - they're much lighter and faster, and they're able to prepare, fire and move again much faster than older MLRS complexes. There's nothing special about the munitions it uses (even the ATACMS is on par with old TOCHKA TBMs), it's just much less vulnerable to tracking and counterbattery fire, increasing survivability.
  8. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny edit : bottom line, if it works, the russians would keep it a secret while they keep leeching valuable intels from compromised ukrainian system.

    the fact that they show it to the world to score PR point means that the system is absolute garbage and useless from tactical and strategic standpoint.

    the guy who supposedly hacked it isn't Russian military, he's a civilian in the Donbass and part of the KILLNET group
  9. Originally posted by aldra When I first heard about HIMARS I looked at the stats and couldn't work out why they were being talked up so much,

    well if you want "americans" to fork out their hard earned money for something your gonna have to tell them its the best money can buy or else they might hesitate,
  10. Originally posted by aldra the guy who supposedly hacked it isn't Russian military, he's a civilian in the Donbass and part of the KILLNET group

    i mean if hes smart enough to hack it he surely is smart enough to know whats good for russia and their SMO assuming he, LDNR and russia share the same goal.

    why didnt he gave what he found to the FSB assuming he hadnt.
  11. Originally posted by Speedy Parker

    Obviously staged for the camera. If those were real bombs, those guys would have been blown into meat chunks.
  12. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Obviously staged for the camera. If those were real bombs, those guys would have been blown into meat chunks.

    they're small grenades, usually kill from fragments causing bleeding rather than the actual explosion. dunno why they wasted so many on that one guy though, they really had it in for him
  13. Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Obviously staged for the camera. If those were real bombs, those guys would have been blown into meat chunks.

    your right.

    those arent bombs, those are grenades.
  14. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition


    TOS-1A is terrifying

    shorter range than standard rocket/artillery because of the massive thermobaric rockets but guaranteed to ruin your day
  15. Originally posted by aldra

    TOS-1A is terrifying

    shorter range than standard rocket/artillery because of the massive thermobaric rockets but guaranteed to ruin your day

    its moot to claim how terrifying a weapon system is without providing pictures of corpses it left behind.
  16. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny its moot to claim how terrifying a weapon system is without providing pictures of corpses it left behind.



    not 100% sure that's from thermobarics but looks like it
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  17. Originally posted by aldra


    not 100% sure that's from thermobarics but looks like it

    nice.

    very interesting.
  18. troon African Astronaut
    Originally posted by aldra


    not 100% sure that's from thermobarics but looks like it

    probably not a bad way to die, better than getting ripped up by shrapnel.

    why do they cage the tanks like that?
  19. Originally posted by troon probably not a bad way to die, better than getting ripped up by shrapnel.

    why do they cage the tanks like that?

    anti rpg cage.

    things they learnt from iraq and afghan.
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  20. Originally posted by vindicktive vinny your right.

    those arent bombs, those are grenades.

    Even a grenade would have blown them to bits. Those were nothing more than smoke bombs, and they didn't even cut it as an actual smoke bomb. It's all fake, folks. It's all just a giant Hollywood production. None of it is real.
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