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40 Years later, My Manchester UK Friends

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    Quick Mix Ready Dark Matter [jealously defalcate my upanishad]
    Mark Burgess and the Chameleons UK still going strong

    However their original Drummer John Levy passed away a few years ago.

    I used to be into punk rock as a kid around age 12 in 1977 but then learned about Post punk which is basically gothic music.

    these guys were about to take off along with bands like Echo and the bunnymen and Bauhaus but their manager died in 85 just as they were getting ready for touring the US. the band ended up breaking up out of frustration.

    they since got back together a few times but were branded The band that should of been arena rock.

    this is why I was asking I think Grylls if he would take photos of Manchester area for me (or someone else from UK, Maybe Jigaboo before finding out he lived in Texas?.. whoever it was). I've since thought of writing a photo book/coffee table regarding the post punk scene in and around the Manchester area of UK. which most bands of Gothic started in around Manchester as "The Manchester Sound"

    Americans were in fact the first Punks but UK was the invention of Gothic rock.

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    Quick Mix Ready Dark Matter [jealously defalcate my upanishad]
    their first album was 1981.
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    Kafka Yung Blood
    First time hearing them they’re nice
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    Manchester today is not the Manchester of the 80s...massive rebuilding has occurred in the last 30yrs...derelict mills have been converted into high priced apartments. The city itself is "unrecognizable" to what it was back when I was a young fella me lad, crackheads are everywhere with Yuppies walking by them...taking photos now really wouldn't show what it was like in the 80s.

    Still, you can watch my double best mate's youtube channel for a taste of Manchester now...he does regular vidoes in and around Manchester and is also quite the character.



    https://www.youtube.com/c/CharlesVeitch/videos
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    Quick Mix Ready Dark Matter [jealously defalcate my upanishad]
    Originally posted by Kafka First time hearing them they’re nice

    they tour the states evert few years

    saw them in Oakland 2017

    hard to believe it's been almost 5 years now. was gonna see them in Brooklyn NY in 2015 but decided to leave back 4 home a week early.
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    Quick Mix Ready Dark Matter [jealously defalcate my upanishad]
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Manchester today is not the Manchester of the 80s…massive rebuilding has occurred in the last 30yrs…derelict mills have been converted into high priced apartments. The city itself is "unrecognizable" to what it was back when I was a young fella me lad, crackheads are everywhere with Yuppies walking by them…taking photos now really wouldn't show what it was like in the 80s.

    Still, you can watch my double best mate's youtube channel for a taste of Manchester now…he does regular vidoes in and around Manchester and is also quite the character.



    https://www.youtube.com/c/CharlesVeitch/videos

    its kind of like that in San Francisco as well. there were shitloads of old warehouses and powerhouse structures in South of Market which has been built up everything new. or renovated into apartments.

    I think many cities became that way. San Francisco has become a hell hole of homeless and outsiders buying in.

    it's not the same place.
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    Aleister Crowley Tuskegee Airman
    Lol I live 30 mins from there. Jigg grew up in Manchester I believe.
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    Quick Mix Ready Dark Matter [jealously defalcate my upanishad]
    Yeah, lots of punk rock and goth scene between the 1970s and 80s in SF.

    Mission had a place called Target Video. a club full of a lot of punk

    North Beach area had Mabuhay Gardens club (Filipino Nightclub became famous for punk and gothic later on)

    when I hit 21 the in- place around mid 1980s was Folsom and 11th with a shitload of nightclubs on one street. DNA Lounge, Oasis, Paradise Lounge, Slims (A popular music venue), Holy Cow, Firehouse 7. all these clubs on one block was mostly the post era early-mid 80s punk district of that time.
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    Quick Mix Ready Dark Matter [jealously defalcate my upanishad]
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson

    It's fucked up this has happened. I few people did those level of drugs. maybe a band member or two was hardcore drug addict while the rest tried and stuck with alcohol. usually drug addicts' didn't stay in the band very long.

    as for people in general, My brother and some of his friends were into heroin. I tried everything to hide my personal shit. everyone else in the family was normal. but he just was a good kid turned piece of shit.

    but today there seems to be far more people into it. or just lack the places go to and hide out. maybe the lack of closed down garages sitting for decades is the reason you see them all like zombies roaming the streets.
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    Quick Mix Ready Dark Matter [jealously defalcate my upanishad]
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson

    Looks a lot like Market Street in San Francisco near Powell where the Cable Car turnstile is.

    however there aren't as many homeless at that area but maybe 3-4 blocks away you suddenly enter the edge of the Tenderloin district and it's a shitstorm of crazy fucking people bum rushing you. or shitting everywhere. or breaking into cars right in front of cops who just look on and drive past them.
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    Kafka Yung Blood
    In Belfast with my friend, I was just asking directions then started kissing this guy, turned out he was a coke dealer, so we were doing coke in public while the peelers drove past. There was this aspie guy handing out e tabs, we talked about natural born killers. There was a heroin girl crying she was schizophrenic then she smashed a bottle and started cutting herself with the glass. We left because we didn’t want to get raped.
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    Bradley Space Nigga
    if ur recording random people why would you not think this shit would happen drugs or not
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    Originally posted by Aleister Crowley Lol I live 30 mins from there. Jigg grew up in Manchester I believe.

    Yes I lived there till I was 29 (minus a couple of years when I was exploring the world)
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    Aleister Crowley Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Yes I lived there till I was 29 (minus a couple of years when I was exploring the world)

    What made you move the US nigg?
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    Originally posted by Aleister Crowley What made you move the US nigg?

    Exwife #1..it was plan B though...Plan A was for her to move to the UK...but that ended up not being possible due to a couple of complications.
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    Quick Mix Ready Dark Matter [jealously defalcate my upanishad]
    I think he moved to the US in the 80s or 90s when the USA was still a fun and decent place to be.

    face it, no where in the world is it a great place to live (unless you got lots of money and live on an island)

    it isn't where you live (at least 1st world) but when you lived in this world.

    times are worse. Technology got funner but music and overall human attitudes suck.

    shit, black and white folks were starting to get along in the 70s and 80s. then came the fucking 90s with video cameras catching Rodney King get his ass whooped bad. has been non-stop ever since.
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    Originally posted by Quick Mix Ready I think he moved to the US in the 80s or 90s when the USA was still a fun and decent place to be.

    1997 I moved here...full of excitement at a new life in the new world.

    ...fucking lol @ that..young dumb and full of cum etc...same shit, different place.
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    Quick Mix Ready Dark Matter [jealously defalcate my upanishad]
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson 1997 I moved here…full of excitement at a new life in the new world.

    …fucking lol @ that..young dumb and full of cum etc…same shit, different place.

    yes but both places were still full of hope and new technology. the internet made lots of money for people with eCommerce and others in coding.

    the world is just full of hopefuls living off of left overs now. everywhere. not just the US or UK or Canada.

    every fucking place. China is suffering from Unemployment crisis for the first time in decades they're saying.

    Oh no.. people in China with out jobs. seriously.. this will cause a lot of Chinese commiting suicide. its considered very dishonorable over there.
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    Aleister Crowley Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by Quick Mix Ready face it, no where in the world is it a great place to live (unless you got lots of money and live on an island)

    Look how that turned out for Jeffrey Epstein.
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