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Dry icing postal fraud (eg Amazon)

  1. #1
    Donald Trump Space Nigga
    This is genius - when returning electronics to amazon you put dry ice into a box and send it, making sure to insure it and get proof of postage, including weight. The dry ice evaporates while the box is in transit, so amazon receive an empty box, and assume the item was stolen in transit.

    https://sinister.ly/Thread-Amazon-advance-refund--131758
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  2. #2
    Cowboy2013 Houston
    That’s brilliant if it works. Taping it first then cutting it with a razor blade and adding more tape would be good for making it look tampered with. Maybe on the bottom because I think they put stickers over it but you can make it work. Fuck Amazon
  3. #3
    Sudo Dark Matter [my hereto riemannian peach]
    Thanks for linking to a better forum, now we're gonna lose all 6 members
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    looks like a gay forum to me
  5. #5
    Originally posted by Donald Trump This is genius - when returning electronics to amazon you put dry ice into a box and send it, making sure to insure it and get proof of postage, including weight. The dry ice evaporates while the box is in transit, so amazon receive an empty box, and assume the item was stolen in transit.

    https://sinister.ly/Thread-Amazon-advance-refund--131758

    this is brilliant for a teenager movie flick but if you try this youd realize :

    ice has density of water plus some and frozen co² has the density of co² plus some.

    ie, your going to need a lot of it to weight a little.
  6. #6
    Quick Mix Ready Naturally Camouflaged [jealously defalcate my upanishad]
    They often open the item To check what you're claiming to be is in fact in the box.


    Amazon doesn't pick up returns (that I know of, plus I drove for them before)

    That's if you drop it off with a return slip on a box, you can opt secured return by both Amazon (depending on the seller to pay for it) and by ups or USPS and sometimes fed-ex

    If you ask for insurance often the person will ask you to open the box up to confirm. They're good to confirm regardless however if it's busy they will just mark it 'confirmed'

    Of course if you put it in a box, how did the item get let out of the product packaging?. If it's a loose item then it will be spotted and confirmed.

    So this would rarely work as a scam. It looks like a shallow claim by author as totse was full of. Just shit to tell.
  7. #7
    Amazon blindly refund missing stuff, even if there is proof of delivery...just tell them you never received it and they'll send you another.
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  8. #8
    Originally posted by Quick Mix Ready They often open the item To check what you're claiming to be is in fact in the box.

    I have never once had a post office or a shipping store/drop off point open my package and check it. That is an insane violation of privacy. I feel like that wouldn’t be done unless you have a track record with postal/package service abuse, which even then, they don’t check ID when dropping off packages so you’d have to be recognized by sight. Where in the hell do they open packages prior to shipping when a person drops off a package?????

    Originally posted by Quick Mix Ready Of course if you put it in a box, how did the item get let out of the product packaging?. If it's a loose item then it will be spotted and confirmed.

    You put the dry ice in a box, seal it, put the label on the top. Flip the box over, cut into the tape on the bottom and rip some of it off a little bit, make it look like it was opened. Take new tape and tape over the original tape so the package looks compromised. Amazon receives an empty package because the dry ice is gone but come to the conclusion because the item was weighed similarly to the item being returned that someone opened the package in transit and stole said-item.
  9. #9
    Quick Mix Ready Naturally Camouflaged [jealously defalcate my upanishad]
    Originally posted by Average Jane I have never once had a post office or a shipping store/drop off point open my package and check it. That is an insane violation of privacy. I feel like that wouldn’t be done unless you have a track record with postal/package service abuse, which even then, they don’t check ID when dropping off packages so you’d have to be recognized by sight. Where in the hell do they open packages prior to shipping when a person drops off a package?????



    You put the dry ice in a box, seal it, put the label on the top. Flip the box over, cut into the tape on the bottom and rip some of it off a little bit, make it look like it was opened. Take new tape and tape over the original tape so the package looks compromised. Amazon receives an empty package because the dry ice is gone but come to the conclusion because the item was weighed similarly to the item being returned that someone opened the package in transit and stole said-item.

    If you're paying them for insurance on an item they sure in hell do have the right to check the box.

    It's perfectly with in their right to do so. You have to agree to it. They're not going to check it later on without your permission.

    Thats like buying car insurance without at least a photo of the cars current condition or the vin number as well as the registration.


    "Hey, that car you gave me insurance on and never asked proof of it's existence, yeah.. it got stolen. Yeah it was rare and uhh. I paid like 20k for it. When can I expect to see my check in the mail?"


    Where? California. And I didn't have a history of this. Sometimes they swirl the package and ask "is there packing material like bubble wrap". If it's insured they can use that as a reason to check so the item is secured properly.
  10. #10
    Originally posted by Quick Mix Ready Thats like buying car insurance without at least a photo of the cars current condition or the vin number as well as the registration.


    "Hey, that car you gave me insurance on and never asked proof of it's existence, yeah.. it got stolen. Yeah it was rare and uhh. I paid like 20k for it. When can I expect to see my check in the mail?"


    Where? California. And I didn't have a history of this. Sometimes they swirl the package and ask "is there packing material like bubble wrap". If it's insured they can use that as a reason to check so the item is secured properly.

    1. Weird, I have never had to supply pictures of my car for my car insurance. Only the VIN, which can pull if there has been reported accidents but not the actual current condition of the car.

    2. It must be different by locale, I have never once had a package be opened with or without permission at the post office/shipping store when I have brought it for shipping. They just take it and mail it. Sometimes they will ask if there’s anything “prohibited” in the box such as flammables and what-not but that depends on the person working and the mood they’re in I suppose. I used to live in California and sent out packages on a weekly basis (they were huge too, military care packages) and I never had an issue then either.

    The more you know, I suppose!
  11. #11
    Originally posted by Average Jane 1. Weird, I have never had to supply pictures of my car for my car insurance. Only the VIN, which can pull if there has been reported accidents but not the actual current condition of the car.

    2. It must be different by locale, I have never once had a package be opened with or without permission at the post office/shipping store when I have brought it for shipping. They just take it and mail it. Sometimes they will ask if there’s anything “prohibited” in the box such as flammables and what-not but that depends on the person working and the mood they’re in I suppose. I used to live in California and sent out packages on a weekly basis (they were huge too, military care packages) and I never had an issue then either.

    The more you know, I suppose!

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  13. #13
    pEEpEEpOOpOO African Astronaut
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  14. #14
    Quick Mix Ready Naturally Camouflaged [jealously defalcate my upanishad]
    Originally posted by Average Jane 1. Weird, I have never had to supply pictures of my car for my car insurance. Only the VIN, which can pull if there has been reported accidents but not the actual current condition of the car.

    2. It must be different by locale, I have never once had a package be opened with or without permission at the post office/shipping store when I have brought it for shipping. They just take it and mail it. Sometimes they will ask if there’s anything “prohibited” in the box such as flammables and what-not but that depends on the person working and the mood they’re in I suppose. I used to live in California and sent out packages on a weekly basis (they were huge too, military care packages) and I never had an issue then either.

    The more you know, I suppose!

    Yeah but if they see military they don't usually ask. But that's just an assumption. I do have grave disease and look wide eyed, but it's probably illegal to judge me from others based on that.

    And it doesn't happen 5o me all the time. And once a black dude in front of me at the UPS store was asked if he wanted insurance, he said yes, they swirled his package (nohomo) and asked to open it. He flipped out a little bit. I almost said "hey that happens to me" but shut it down real quick.

    My "boomer years" people didn't have these issues. Clearly post 9-11 but it's sensitive now.and this happened just 2 months ago near Berkeley, Bay Area where the liberal hub went from easy pleasy to rules on everything.


    I miss my youth. Sorry MOON PERSON Fuckers
  15. #15
    Quick Mix Ready Naturally Camouflaged [jealously defalcate my upanishad]
    Originally posted by pEEpEEpOOpOO Pretty sure that is illegal/unconstitutional.
    Maybe they can xray it? If they want to open it, they will need a warrant.

    Yeah, Hi beeno.

    Texas much? Where you can carry concealed and shoot a man coming out of a neighbors house vs Cali Me gets sued because someone breaking into my house falls through that skylight.
  16. #16
    Originally posted by Quick Mix Ready Yeah, Hi beeno.

    Texas much? Where you can carry concealed and shoot a man coming out of a neighbors house vs Cali Me gets sued because someone breaking into my house falls through that skylight.

    I do not miss living in California. Ooooof
  17. #17
    Quick Mix Ready Naturally Camouflaged [jealously defalcate my upanishad]
    Originally posted by Average Jane I do not miss living in California. Ooooof

    It's got to the point where no one fucking smiles.

    Just people at stop lights under freeway over passes walking up "I'm hungry" more aggressively.
    I feel sad for homeless but most are drug addicts or foreign people

    It's never been paradise but it was good weather and occasional night life. It's an ideal place to live comfortably most of your life but shitty criminal cunts pander to weirdos and allowing everything but protection from scum taking away what you work hard for.

    Too many flags on your house"

    Build a tent city here for 4 blocks long. And collect as much trash as you can so it becomes rat infested of giant sewer rats so it infests neighboring homes

    These hypocrites need to be removed from power.
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  18. #18
    Prarie Dog Yung Blood
    I don't know about this idea. The mail person might touch it and say "this package is far to cold to ship" then they would return it to sender but because you sent it they will send it to you then you would be excited because you thought you got a package only to be disappointed that is contains nothing.

    The moral of this story is not to put all your dry ice in one package.
  19. #19
    Quick Mix Ready Naturally Camouflaged [jealously defalcate my upanishad]
    Originally posted by Prarie Dog I don't know about this idea. The mail person might touch it and say "this package is far to cold to ship" then they would return it to sender but because you sent it they will send it to you then you would be excited because you thought you got a package only to be disappointed that is contains nothing.

    The moral of this story is not to put all your dry ice in one package.

    Meat is sent in dry ice often. The coldness would not be a problem
  20. #20
    Originally posted by pEEpEEpOOpOO Pretty sure that is illegal/unconstitutional.
    Maybe they can xray it? If they want to open it, they will need a warrant.

    time to research how to make xray activated bombs.
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