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was malice right about antinatalism?

  1. #1
    netstat African Astronaut
    i would definitely say yes

    there are no good arguments against it
  2. #2
    Ghost Black Hole
    yes
  3. #3
    Meikai African Astronaut
    No. Antinatalism is kind of like communism: it's a good philosophy for some undetermined point in the distant future. A lofty goal to one day aspire to. As I've explained before, antinatalism ignores the vast majority of suffering in the world by limiting the scope of our concerns to "new humans". If humans all stopped having children today and our species died out in 100 years, suffering would not be eliminated. The cycle of creating new life only for it to suffer would not end. Humanity has a moral obligation to serve as the Annihilator - to end all life - before we're free to retire. At the very least we need a Deathwatch Vanguard to continue breeding until all life is ended.

    Antinatalism is human egocentrism.
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  4. #4
    netstat African Astronaut
    i thought malice at one point suggested he wanted to remain alive only to help figure out how to make AI that could eradicate all life or something like that, but yeah, i generally agree with your view, our moral obligation is the bring the end of not just human or sentient life but every living thing that could one day evolve into beings that can experience suffering
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  5. #5
    Sudo Naturally Camouflaged [my hereto riemannian peach]
    If I was slightly more autistic I'd write a paper tying Jane Buddhism to antinatalism but alas I also have adhd and a hillbillies vocabulary. Somebody kill me
  6. #6
    Solstice African Astronaut
    Malice was ahead of his time
  7. #7
    Meikai African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Solstice Malice was ahead of his time

    We'll never get to see Malice's take on the coronavirus pandemic.
  8. #8
    Nile Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by Meikai a Deathwatch Vanguard

    I feel like the DWV would need to have a lot of discipline to carry out there task, lest they use their Mission as a means to cling to life, a lowish maximum age would have to be implemented for command. With there execution scheduled at such a time by the lower echelons until The Organisations work is complete would be a good policy. Keeping the goal in sight, instilling urgency and gravitas, and helping to halt organizational inertia.
  9. #9
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    what is the point? of either continuing to exist or forcing its end

    is it purely survival? I can't accept that
  10. #10
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Nile I feel like the DWV would need to have a lot of discipline to carry out there task, lest they use their Mission as a means to cling to life, a lowish maximum age would have to be implemented for command. With there execution scheduled at such a time by the lower echelons until The Organisations work is complete would be a good policy. Keeping the goal in sight, instilling urgency and gravitas, and helping to halt organizational inertia.

    https://niggasin.space/thread/62950

    join chat pls I'm just rambling at myself right now
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