2020-01-25 at 3:21 PM UTC
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coward
[the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
flag·el·late
1
/ˈflajəˌlāt/
verb
gerund or present participle: flagellating
flog (someone), either as a religious discipline or for sexual gratification.
"he flagellated himself with branches"
2020-01-25 at 3:41 PM UTC
kroz
weak whyte, frothy cuck, and former twink
larry legend you're a huge lamer.
2020-01-25 at 4:06 PM UTC
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coward
[the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
Every human being has the unique gift of free will. That means even a perfect man, or perfect angelic creature, can decide to become wicked. At any time. Even at a late date. Just look at Satan. Satan was a very-high-ranking official in the Creator's heavenly government, admired by all, striking, intelligent, of king-like stature. And yet he decided to do wrong and become evil and oppose God's plans and join the Dark Side. It can happen to anyone at any time, no matter how "good" you are. So, no, your life is not predetermined and uncontrollable, because you alone control the outcome of your own life. Your future is not yet set, because no one knows what you might decide to do next, not even God. However, he is very good at reading the heart. The heart condition is the big tell.
2020-01-25 at 4:32 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace
>still no scripture
>obviously hasn't even read the Bible
On god's omniscience/omnipresence (in other words, he created all things and sees all things):
Colossians 1:16 "For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him."
Jeremiah 23:24 "Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him? declares the Lord. Do I not fill heaven and earth? declares the Lord."
John 1:3 "Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made."
Hebrews 4:13 "And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account."
1 Corinthians 8:6 "Yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist."
Psalm 139:7-15 "Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence? If I go up to the heavens, you are there; if I make my bed in the depths, you are there. If I rise on the wings of the dawn, if I settle on the far side of the sea, even there your hand will guide me,your right hand will hold me fast…..My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth."
On god knowing future events, knowing everything, inability to go against his plan, etc:
Jeremiah 29:11 "For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans for welfare and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope."
Proverbs 19:21 "Many are the plans in the mind of a man, but it is the purpose of the Lord that will stand."
Psalm 139:4 "Even before a word is on my tongue, behold, O Lord, you know it altogether."
1 John 3:20 "For whenever our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and he knows everything."
John 16:13 "When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come."
James 4:13-17 "Come now, you who say, “Today or tomorrow we will go into such and such a town and spend a year there and trade and make a profit”— yet you do not know what tomorrow will bring. What is your life? For you are a mist that appears for a little time and then vanishes. Instead you ought to say, “If the Lord wills, we will live and do this or that.”"
Ephesians 1:11 "In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will, in order that we, who were the first to put our hope in Christ, might be for the praise of his glory."
Ephesians 2:10 "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them."
Psalm 139:16 "Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them."
Psalm 44:21 "Would not God discover this? For he knows the secrets of the heart."
Isaiah 46:10 "Declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done, saying, ‘My counsel shall stand, and I will accomplish all my purpose'"
Psalm 33:11 "The counsel of the Lord stands forever, the plans of his heart to all generations."
In other words, all-powerful and all-knowing. And it goes on, and on, and on. Seriously I could go on but I'm just getting bored of this. There are dozens if not hundreds of more examples. Go on, now that I've objectively proven you wrong beyond any doubt let's hear what you have to say. How about you make an actual argument with points and facts instead of trying to misdirect from the topic or launch personal insults
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2020-01-25 at 4:42 PM UTC
You just en masse copy pasted by searching for a general term, meanwhile absolutely none of it claims existence is predetermined. Again, its talking about God's will, not some plan or path that you cannot stray from.
I'm not religious in the slightest but I did go to catholic school and got a religious education, and I know you are without a doubt just making up bullshit to fill in the gaps in your knowledge of Christianity. It makes you feel better about being ignorant and helps to maintain your false sense of superiority.
There is nothing worse than someone who makes up bullshit about another's spiritual beliefs, ignoring the words of those who actually believe, and the general consensus of the theists, based on some self conceived interpretation of their religious texts.
People say the same shit about atheists too. No moral barometer. No guide in life. Etc etc. None of that is true either. How about you listen instead of talking for once?
