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US citizen stripped of citizenship for the crimes of a family member

  1. #1
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/30/trump-immigration-citizenship-green-cards-face-deportation

    32 year old electrician with no criminal record. Immigrated from Bangladesh to the US at 8yrs old. Has a wife and three children.

    His brother detonated a pipe bomb in NY. His family was investigated and none were found to be complicit.

    Regardless, his bank account was closed, the FBI put his business license on hold, and he got a letter stating they were planning to revoke his citizenship. His mother and sisters with green cards had their resident status revoked. His mother and one sister were detained. DHS claims it is because they are not related to the uncle who helped get them into the country, and that it is unlawful.

    It should be noted that to apply for a green card through family, you already have to prove the relationship. These are the list of things you can use to prove that.

    https://www.path2usa.com/requirements-for-family-based-green-card-petition-and-immigrant-visa#2

    So it's interesting that they are only now, 24 years later, after this guy has already applied for a green card AND citizenship, and got them, that they decide the documents he provided were not legal.

    This is the legislation they're accusing him of breaking.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1425

    For a criminal conviction, the federal government must show “proof beyond a reasonable doubt” that the individual violated 18 U.S.C. § 1425 because the individual knowingly obtained or attempted to obtain naturalization through fraud for him or herself or for another individual. Denaturalization as a result of a criminal conviction is subject to a ten-year statute of limitation.

    So not only are they accusing an 8 year old of intentional fraud, but this goes well beyond the 10 year statue of limitation.

    In 2017 the Supreme court ruled in Maslenjak v. United States that you must actually break the law to be deported. The statue above is specifically cited in the court document. You cannot revoke citizenship without them breaking the law.

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/16pdf/16-309_h31i.pdf

    In short, DHS is breaking the law and trying to punish law abiding citizens and residents for the crimes of their family members, much like Hitler did.
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    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
    Immigrants are not citizens.
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    Erekshun Naturally Camouflaged
    Hitler, jeezus.
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    Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood Immigrants are not citizens.

    Incorrect. Here is a link from the US government to the legislature and necessary forms to apply for citizenship as an immigrant.

    https://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/citizenship-through-naturalization
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    Originally posted by Erekshun Hitler, jeezus.

    They're called the Nuremberg Laws, and were enacted in 1935. It stripped all jedis of citizenship and this was the reason for sending them to the camps. Later additions included mixed race jedis, which is how it came to be that having any jedi in your lineage could get you deported to the concentration camps, where people were held indefinitely and without trial.

    Sound familiar yet?

    Mussolini did a similar thing in 1938.
  6. #6
    are you affraid that you'd one day get deported ?
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    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny are you affraid that you'd one day get deported ?

    I'll never get deported. Even if I committed a terrorist act or smuggled drugs. I was naturalized at birth like all natural born Americans.
  8. #8
    Erekshun Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by Erekshun Hitler, jeezus.

    I breathe, eat and shit.

    Just like hitler.
  9. #9
    Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace I'll never get deported. Even if I committed a terrorist act or smuggled drugs. I was naturalized at birth like all natural born Americans.

    so were the jéws you cited above.
  10. #10
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny so were the jéws you cited above.

    We have seperation of powers. Trump will be out of office next year if not sooner. I'm not worried. Democrats are already winning hard across the board.
  11. #11
    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    OP really hates Americans.
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  12. #12
    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
    Americans should be ethnically white or native american
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    Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace We have seperation of powers. Trump will be out of office next year if not sooner. I'm not worried. Democrats are already winning hard across the board.

    so did germany in the 30s,
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    WellHung Black Hole
    The dude fucked too many niggers. He should have known better.
  15. #15
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace …Democrats are already winning hard across the board.

    That's an outright falsehood.
  16. #16
    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    Originally posted by -SpectraL That's an outright falsehood.

    Let's fact check §m£ÂgØL.

    Or fat check
  17. #17
    Number13 African Astronaut [dispute my snotty-nosed seagull]
    Doesn't the patriot act pretty much nullify most rights a person has?
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  18. #18
    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace They're called the Nuremberg Laws, and were enacted in 1935. It stripped all jedis of citizenship and this was the reason for sending them to the camps. Later additions included mixed race jedis, which is how it came to be that having any jedi in your lineage could get you deported to the concentration camps, where people were held indefinitely and without trial.

    Based on a true story.
  19. #19
    Number13 African Astronaut [dispute my snotty-nosed seagull]
    Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Based on a true story.

    Indeed, the year 1935 was a thing.
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  20. #20
    Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Based on a true story.

    Uneducated obese British man^
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