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  1. #1
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Access to MANPADs more than any other weapons system should be directly protected by the Second Amendment.


    1. The core purpose of the Second Amendment is as a bulwark against A) a tyrannical government or B) an occupying force. The US military is utterly dependent on air superiority to fight wars, and it stands to reason that air support would be just as critical for the state to fight large-scale uprisings. Any occupying force would ostensibly have to rely on air superiority as well given the size of the US and what would be required to wrest control from the current state.

    2. As a result, the proliferation of portable, concealable (from radar and satellite) and effective anti-aircraft weapons would be crucial to narrowing the gap between civilian and state military capabilities, perhaps more than any other weapon.

    3. The cost of losing even a few jets or high-end drones to civilian anti-air attacks would be crippling enough to force the 'oppressor' to completely rethink deploying air power in areas where MANPAD units are known to operate. Which could be anywhere.

    4. Under most circumstances, MANPADs have significantly less lethal potential than small arms; ie. you could try to commit a shooting with one but you'd have to carry a lot of them. The exception to this would be ports and airports, but man portable AA weapons have a range that is nowhere near the cruising altitude of a commercial airliner so this could be mitigated by creating exclusion zones around airports and critical infrastructure. While they're concealable vs. radar and satellite, they're not concealable vs. patrols and standard ground surveillance.
  2. #2
    I recall reading a statement from the Kremlin that, should there be civil war in the u.s., that Russia would step in.

    And then you have love crates parachuting into your back yard.
  3. #3
    Grylls motherfucker [abrade this vocal tread-softly]
    what the hell is a manpad, an ipad
    for guys?

    i want one
  4. #4
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Misguided Russian I recall reading a statement from the Kremlin that, should there be civil war in the u.s., that Russia would step in.

    And then you have love crates parachuting into your back yard.

    I'd seriously doubt that's open policy but yeah, it's long been an 'open secret' that both Russia and China would have a field day with that

    Originally posted by Grylls what the hell is a manpad, an ipad
    for guys?

    i want one

  5. #5
    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country African Astronaut [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    Anyone ever unload on a plane with a normal machine gun, like a Steyr? What are the effects?
  6. #6
    Originally posted by aldra Access to MANPADs more than any other weapons system should be directly protected by the Second Amendment.


    1. The core purpose of the Second Amendment is as a bulwark against A) a tyrannical government or B) an occupying force. The US military is utterly dependent on air superiority to fight wars, and it stands to reason that air support would be just as critical for the state to fight large-scale uprisings. Any occupying force would ostensibly have to rely on air superiority as well given the size of the US and what would be required to wrest control from the current state.

    2. As a result, the proliferation of portable, concealable (from radar and satellite) and effective anti-aircraft weapons would be crucial to narrowing the gap between civilian and state military capabilities, perhaps more than any other weapon.

    3. The cost of losing even a few jets or high-end drones to civilian anti-air attacks would be crippling enough to force the 'oppressor' to completely rethink deploying air power in areas where MANPAD units are known to operate. Which could be anywhere.

    4. Under most circumstances, MANPADs have significantly less lethal potential than small arms; ie. you could try to commit a shooting with one but you'd have to carry a lot of them. The exception to this would be ports and airports, but man portable AA weapons have a range that is nowhere near the cruising altitude of a commercial airliner so this could be mitigated by creating exclusion zones around airports and critical infrastructure. While they're concealable vs. radar and satellite, they're not concealable vs. patrols and standard ground surveillance.

    Originally posted by benny vader this is ahmeed,



    he is free to bear arms.



    Originally posted by benny vader this is also ahmeed.



    he too, is too is free to bear arms.



    Originally posted by benny vader these are ahmeeds.



    they too, are free to bear arms.



    Originally posted by benny vader this is freedom to bear arms.

  7. #7
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Anyone ever unload on a plane with a normal machine gun, like a Steyr? What are the effects?

    would be incredibly hard to hit even if the plane came into range
  8. #8
    Originally posted by aldra I'd seriously doubt that's open policy but yeah, it's long been an 'open secret' that both Russia and China would have a field day with that




    whoa dude that was siiiiiiiiiiiick
  9. #9
    tbh all the government forces need to do is just seize and block supply lines to walmarts and aldis and american militias will starve to death and/or surrender.
  10. #10
    stl1 African Astronaut
    I got your ManPads right here:

    https://www.tena.us/mens-products/Men,en_US,sc.html
  11. #11
    Grylls motherfucker [abrade this vocal tread-softly]
    Originally posted by stl1 I got your ManPads right here:

    https://www.tena.us/mens-products/Men,en_US,sc.html

    im signing up for the free trial
  12. #12
    stl1 African Astronaut
    Glad I could help.
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