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What the fuck is up with folks being against vaccination?

  1. #21
    Originally posted by Who I remember lining up to go into the principles office and when I got inside everyone was being stabbed in the arm with this strange object, it was the polio vaccine, first administered in the late 50's.

    It's worked, I'm not hunch backed.

    show me with these anatomically precise dolls where else were you stabbed.
  2. #22
    Originally posted by Who Why do you think life expectancy in 1930 for Males was 56 and for females 62?

    That is what the big deal is about

    because people lived a dignified life back then.

    i'd kill myself if i ever needed diapers.
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  3. #23
    Sudo Black Hole [my hereto riemannian peach]
    better subject: what's with those Kenyan prostitutes who are immune to AIDS? Are they going to form the vaccination for AIDS? They've cured 2 HIV patients so far, will they someday form the genetic material of humanity?
  4. #24
    I'm still trying to figure out how a vaccinated person getting a disease they were vaccinated for means anything other than an ineffective vaccine

    But I don't know much about the subject

    My parents were early anti-vaxxers, and though I don't really believe the whole "vaccines cause autism" thing I don't think we should be forcing anyone to get them

    I was going to get the shots I didn't get as a kid, but meh
  5. #25
    larrylegend8383 Naturally Camouflaged
    I'm not 100% sure but I think it exposes the body to it and let's your body build a defense. Then if you become exposed to it naturally it's not as dangerous as it could have been.

    Kind of like a bacteria or virus from Mars could potentially cause extreme damage to millions because we've never been exposed and our immune system wouldn't be able to handle it.
  6. #26
    Ghost Black Hole
    Lots of vaccines don't even work lol
  7. #27
    A College Professor victim of incest [your moreover breastless limestone]
    many vaccines are made with industrial waste that would otherwise cost money to dispose of. like mercurys
  8. #28
    larrylegend8383 Naturally Camouflaged
    Government issued money shots
  9. #29
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by A College Professor many vaccines are made with industrial waste that would otherwise cost money to dispose of. like mercurys

    thimerosal is not the same thing as elemental mercury, and it's even been taken out of most vaccines to stop retards complaining about it.
  10. #30
    A College Professor victim of incest [your moreover breastless limestone]
    okay ill get vaccinated now im ready
  11. #31
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by JĎ…icebox I'm still trying to figure out how a vaccinated person getting a disease they were vaccinated for means anything other than an ineffective vaccine

    Mutations mostly, but also people with compromised or unusual immune systems may not create the correct antibodies to fight it in the future. Mutations are why flu shots don't generally last more than a season.

    IM vaccines contain a dead disease (the cheap oral ones used in the third world have a weakened, not dead, version, which is risky) so that your immune system can create antibodies to fight it while not being under direct attack.

    The point of herd immunity is that if enough people are vaccinated to prevent a disease, it's unable to effectively enter a population and infect people who can't be vaccinated or are immunocompromised. If those people are infected, it not only threatens them but it also risks the disease mutating in such a way that the antibodies of people who were already vaccinated can no longer fight it.
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  12. #32
    WellHung Black Hole
    Mutations is right. These microorganisms are incredibly adaptive and versatile in combating our scientific attempts to thwart them. The greatest threat to humanity, in general, has not been large predatory beasts, but super small things, you can't really see.
  13. #33
    WellHung Black Hole
    Originally posted by aldra Mutations mostly, but also people with compromised or unusual immune systems may not create the correct antibodies to fight it in the future. Mutations are why flu shots don't generally last more than a season.

    IM vaccines contain a dead disease (the cheap oral ones used in the third world have a weakened, not dead, version, which is risky) so that your immune system can create antibodies to fight it while not being under direct attack.

    The point of herd immunity is that if enough people are vaccinated to prevent a disease, it's unable to effectively enter a population and infect people who can't be vaccinated or are immunocompromised. If those people are infected, it not only threatens them but it also risks the disease mutating in such a way that the antibodies of people who were already vaccinated can no longer fight it.

    Ur smart as fuck. You're like a walking encyclopedia. You're up there with jigaboo Johnson as far as the brainiest person here.
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  14. #34
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    lol, I got into an argument about this on zoklet I think, years ago. Ended up reading a shitload about the whole argument, from tainted stock causing nerve damage back in the days of the Spanish Flu, to the different kinds of preservatives used, to flawed and often malicious studies often cited by people who claim 'vaccines cause autism' (the Serrano study on rats is a perfect example).
  15. #35
    WellHung Black Hole
    Originally posted by aldra lol, I got into an argument about this on zoklet I think, years ago. Ended up reading a shitload about the whole argument, from tainted stock causing nerve damage back in the days of the Spanish Flu, to the different kinds of preservatives used, to flawed and often malicious studies often cited by people who claim 'vaccines cause autism' (the Serrano study on rats is a perfect example).

    I've learned a lot from you already. you got a good scientific mind.
  16. #36
    Originally posted by aldra Mutations mostly, but also people with compromised or unusual immune systems may not create the correct antibodies to fight it in the future. Mutations are why flu shots don't generally last more than a season.

    IM vaccines contain a dead disease (the cheap oral ones used in the third world have a weakened, not dead, version, which is risky) so that your immune system can create antibodies to fight it while not being under direct attack.

    The point of herd immunity is that if enough people are vaccinated to prevent a disease, it's unable to effectively enter a population and infect people who can't be vaccinated or are immunocompromised. If those people are infected, it not only threatens them but it also risks the disease mutating in such a way that the antibodies of people who were already vaccinated can no longer fight it.

    Makes sense. But why do people care so much if a few people don't want to vaccinate their kids? It can't be anywhere near 5%
  17. #37
    Originally posted by A College Professor many vaccines are made with industrial waste that would otherwise cost money to dispose of. like mercurys

    and florides.
  18. #38
    Originally posted by WellHung Mutations is right. These microorganisms are incredibly adaptive and versatile in combating our scientific attempts to thwart them. The greatest threat to humanity, in general, has not been large predatory beasts, but super small things, you can't really see.

    many of these microorganisms are actually new species of humans or some form of other apex organisms. their purpose is to infect and kill all the current apex predators on the foodchain and then, slowly and over the aeons.

    recombine and mutate into a new apex organism very much like us. so was our genesis.
  19. #39
    Originally posted by aldra lol, I got into an argument about this on zoklet I think, years ago. Ended up reading a shitload about the whole argument, from tainted stock causing nerve damage back in the days of the Spanish Flu, to the different kinds of preservatives used, to flawed and often malicious studies often cited by people who claim 'vaccines cause autism' (the Serrano study on rats is a perfect example).

    thats why trolls always win.

    its all about the cost of information.

    it cost trolls almost next to nothing to propose and espouse their troll ideas and citing fake newses and sources while it takes someone like you to spend numerous hours and hundreds of clicks and links to show the truth.
  20. #40
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    I had to get a whole bunch of booster shots to up my autism level before I could go through with all that research
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