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  1. #41
    mmQ Lisa Turtle
    Why are you guys smoking match heads that doesnt sound healthy
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  2. #42
    Ghost Black Hole
    gonna cook so much meth with all this RED P YO

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  3. #43
    mashlehash victim of incest [my perspicuously dependant flavourlessness]
    Originally posted by Ghost To kill YOU maybe because I was snorting multiple match heads of pure #4 with no tolerance snd i'm fine. The only opiate I ever OD'd on was fentanyl and that also didn't kill me.

    Weak people shouldn't do drugs.

    Great Job











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  4. #44
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by Ghost gonna cook so much meth with all this RED P YO


    Is there a mechanical way to automate the removal of those match heads?

    Also, isn't Birch reduction better?

    Or do folks prefer RP/I method over Birch if possible?
  5. #45
    Ghost Black Hole
    Lol match heads don't have phosphorus it was a meme bro!

    They had an episode on myth busters where they ordered an entire pallet of books of matches and chopped the heads of 10,000 matches with a paper cutter. I don't know what they did with the books/strikers but thats where the red P is.

    The actual way to get red p is very labor intensive and involves using tin snips to cut the striker strips of a few thousand books of matches and using various chemical and mechanical treatment to liberate the phosphorus from the strips

    https://erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/rpbible.html

    Birch is a cold cook so it can be done without electricity or a hotplate, rp/i you need to reflux/boil. people tend to go with whatever method is easiest for them to get precursors for.

    There is also another way to obtain phosphorus that isn't well known, it involves the use of potassium phosphite (not phosPHATE) fertilizer to be converted into phosphorous acid H3PO3 which can be used in place of red phosphorus

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  6. #46
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by mmQ Why are you guys smoking match heads that doesnt sound healthy

    I plug butane enemas and then sit on a lit candle.

  7. #47
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by Ghost Birch is a cold cook so it can be done without electricity or a hotplate, rp/i you need to reflux/boil. people tend to go with whatever method is easiest for them to get precursors for.

    Ah ok, makes sense.

    I noticed that stupid noob (and he's got quite a long-standing reputation in the clandestine chem community) around here is pretty fervently pro-RP/I and anti-Birch for some reason.

    I often wondered what criteria one would use to make such a value judgment.

    Is quality of the yield at all different? (Assuming the same degree of professionality and lab procedure went into both).
  8. #48
    Ghost Black Hole
    He probably just hates shake and bake. I don't see either of the methods having many benefits over the other, they both have precursors that are a bitch to get in large amounts (making your own anhydrous and fucking with striker strips), I think rp/i actually has worse yields and requires extra steps like steam distillation

    I believe birch has shorter cook times but there are issues with the smell, ammonia stinks really bad. Both of the reactions are over 50 years old, they are pretty archaic by today's standards.

    Maybe he's against it for safety reasons, anhydrous ammonia is pretty dangerous stuff.

  9. #49
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by Ghost To kill YOU maybe because I was snorting multiple match heads of pure #4 with no tolerance snd i'm fine. The only opiate I ever OD'd on was fentanyl and that also didn't kill me.

    Weak people shouldn't do drugs.

    Not traditional pure 100% heroin. Modern China White is really furanyl fentanyl. A match head of traditional 100% pure heroin will kill you dead, don't matter who you are or what tolerance you have.
  10. #50
    Ghost Black Hole
    So this "uncut #4" is actually cut?

    I know pure diacetylmorphine is supposed to be white but this stuff should be above 95% in purity if they are advertising it as uncut. They can't ALL be full of shit or that would make it a conspiracy.

  11. #51
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by Ghost He probably just hates shake and bake. I don't see either of the methods having many benefits over the other, they both have precursors that are a bitch to get in large amounts (making your own anhydrous and fucking with striker strips), I think rp/i actually has worse yields and requires extra steps like steam distillation

    I believe birch has shorter cook times but there are issues with the smell, ammonia stinks really bad. Both of the reactions are over 50 years old, they are pretty archaic by today's standards.

    Maybe he's against it for safety reasons, anhydrous ammonia is pretty dangerous stuff.


    Oh man yeah anhydrous ammonia can do some serious damage. Ever since I started looking into the Birch method I've been seeing all kinds of references to how much damage it can do.

    And I can only imagine that shake and bake would be like Russian roulette with a rocket launcher.

    But as long as safety precautions are taken into consideration, it seems that Birch is pretty feasible, just as long as you have lots of ventilation and all that.

    Also, are there devices out there that can detect specific chemicals in the atmosphere? It might be overkill, but if you could have something set up to detect any leaking ammonia gas and immediately shut off all valves and sound some kind of alarm, that might be life saving.
  12. #52
    Originally posted by whoami SWIM has considered doing this. He has the skills but not the ambition.

    well this must be his lucky day because SWIM has all the ambition but none of the skills.

    maybe your SWIM should meet my SWIM.
  13. #53
    Methcathinone is an easy peasy leezy reaction
  14. #54
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by DietPiano Methcathinone is an easy peasy leezy reaction

    Way back in 2005 I actually printed out a methcathinone synth from Rhodium or whatever and studied the fuck out of it and was gonna do the synth with a friend.
  15. #55
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by Ghost So this "uncut #4" is actually cut?

    I know pure diacetylmorphine is supposed to be white but this stuff should be above 95% in purity if they are advertising it as uncut. They can't ALL be full of shit or that would make it a conspiracy.

    Classic China White is.. well, white.
  16. #56
    mmQ Lisa Turtle
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny well this must be his lucky day because SWIM has all the ambition but none of the skills.

    maybe your SWIM should meet my SWIM.

    Your SWIM doesn't know how to..

    Maybe hush. Hush puppy.
  17. #57
    Michael Myers victim of incest [divide your nonresilient tucker]
    Originally posted by whoami Remember a time when you didn't want to bend over and take Jensen Ackles' cock deep in your anus? I don't.

    Haha whose alt is this? I remember using that Jensen Ackles .GIF for days, I gotta re-use it. Thanks for reminding.
  18. #58
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by mmQ Your SWIM doesn't know how to..

    Maybe hush. Hush puppy.

  19. #59
    hi pluto
  20. #60
    Ghost Black Hole
    Looks like you were right........ officer ;)
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