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Cohen, Trump's former lawyer, has admitted to setting up an illegal meeting with Putin

  1. #41
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING III: The Quest for 911 Truth So China would win WW3?

    truth is, nobody would
  2. #42
    i hope the entire thing ends up with a night/day of long knives.
  3. #43
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by GGG I do believe Trump's organization is involved in a collusion or partnership with Russia.

    Depends on what you class as 'collusion' I guess - VVP's never explicitly said it, but it's an open secret that the Russian leadership preferred Trump over Hillary due to her insanely aggressive policy toward them. I've not seen any credible evidence that the Russian government manipulated the 2016 US elections in any way - the only properly documented accusation is that divisive campaign ads were purchased on facebeak from Russian IP addresses, but that doesn't prove the buyers were Russian (could've potentially been VPN or proxy users), let alone Russian government. All of the arrests I'm aware of under the Mueller investigation have been for corruption and bribery or not fully complying with the investigation; none indicate a pattern of pro-Russian subterfuge. Flynn, for example simply talked to a Russian diplomat before he was officially signed in (it would've been his job) and failed to tell Pence about it.

    The US establishment had been ramping up aggression against Russia even before Trump, and for his part he's been trying to roll it back - ramping up cold-war rhetoric and simultaneously closing down embassies and lines of communication (specifically over Ukraine/Crimea from memory) is an extremely dangerous course of action, allowing for minimal deconfliction and setting the stage for minor misunderstandings to escalate into serious political (or even kinetic) conflicts. This is one of the few things I think he deserves the highest praise for... The way the media and political establishment go to town implying, if not outright saying, that he's a traitor just for discussing current events directly with VVP is quite literally insane.


    I don't believe this is evidence of it. This is evidence of witness tampering, which Trump has done by instructing Cohen to pay off people who were going to spill the beans on his misappropriation of campaign funds.

    I'm not aware of this. Got a source?

    I don't think we're going to see the Russia collusion be anything like 'Trump knew they were tampering with the election.' It's more like shifty financial investments and partnerships that will be tied to his organization but possibly not to Trump himself. Don't forget that Manafort was wired millions on the day he began working for Trump. I believe he has most to hide. Russia tampered with US elections (and others) all on their own.

    Wasn't Manafort on the payroll for the coup-imposed government in Ukraine? I thought that's what got him done. As for Russia 'tampering with US elections', feel free to cite how. I've been through a lot of claims and not found a single reliable one.

    Russia benefits simply by causing chaos and diverting attention away from the middle east/Ukraine/Crimea.

    Russia is trying to draw attention TO the Middle East, Ukraine and Crimea.

    They're regularly pointing out how the US/SDF has no legal reason to be in Syria as well as posing questions as to how ISIS is able to survive inside SDF-occupied zones while ostensibly being targeted by the world's most powerful air force. They're (through media such as RT and SPUTNIK) telling people that US policies against Iran are ineffective and self-destructive and need to be rethought. OH, and let's not forget the recent chlorine gas attacks on Aleppo, launched via mortar from within Idlib. The western media has been almost completely silent on this matter because there is absolutely no way they could twist it to blame Assad this time, Russia and Syria's calls for a full investigation falling on dead ears.

    They're regularly pointing out that huge sections of the army and 'volunteer-battalions' in the Ukraine fly NSDAP battle flags and carry out attempts at ethnic cleansing, that they're continuously provoking the Russian navy (and fishermen) in the Black Sea and that they're regularly committing serious crimes against the breakaway Eastern regions with the US and NATO turning a blind eye.

    They haven't bothered putting Crimea in the spotlight much in the last few months, but up until (and just after) the bridge connecting it to the Russian Mainland was completed they were constantly comparing Crimea's industry and standard of living to how abysmal it was under Ukrainian stewardship.

    They're trying to create a precedent of being allowed to act freely in spite of any agreements.

    LOL, I hope you're not serious here. What agreements have Russia broken recently?

    In contrast, the US has unilitarally withdrawn from the JCPOA (which was illegal under international law considering it was agreed upon by several member-states and officially ratified by the UN), and not only that but is attempting to force the other signatories (who are still attempting to abide by the agreement) to abide by the unilateral sanctions on Iran the US has since re-applied.

    They're also set to withdraw from the INF and the newSTART missile treaties, spuriously accusing Russia of breaking them when in actual fact they've been deploying static 'anti-ICBM interceptors' that can also fire cruise missiles all over Western Europe. It's also been pointed out that several months prior to the US accusations, the Pentagon released tenders for the development of midrange (500-1000km) cruise missiles - indicating that they're already developing new missiles in violation of the INF, and that the accusation that Russia is doing so is just a smokescreen so that they can withdraw from the INF without appearing to be at fault.



    At this point, no sovereign country can sign an agreement of any kind with the US and expect them to honour it.
  4. #44
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    inb4 tl/dr


  5. #45
    GGG victim of incest [my veinlike two-fold aepyornidae]
    Are you serious? Russia invaded two neighbors in the past few years and nothing came of it. They're allowed to invade and do whoever and whatever they want. Just like the US.

    Lately Russia broke the Geneva convention by making those Ukrainian soldiers film a video stating Ukrainian blame. There's zero excuse for that. It's also against Russian law lol. They're supposed to be sharing medical information on the soldiers and then return them to Ukraine ASAP, as soon as they're healthy enough to. Which they already were healthy it appears. The video was also illegal.
  6. #46
    GGG victim of incest [my veinlike two-fold aepyornidae]
    If you haven't heard of the witness tampering you need to reread latest news. Because that was the main point.

    The only other time this happened, where a president has been explicitly listed in an FBI investigation, was Nixon.
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  7. #47
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by GGG Are you serious? Russia invaded two neighbors in the past few years and nothing came of it.

    Crimea's been Russian territory for 400+ years, it's been under the stewardship of the Ukraine since the height of the cold war when that drunk Kruschev gave them stewardship (against the USSR constitution). For the last 20 years or so Crimea's been running referendums (which have been ignored by the Ukraine) to return to Russia, each and every time getting 80+% of the vote. Nevermind the fact that the literal only infrastructure there is the Russian naval base, and that Ukraine has done little to nothing to maintain or improve the region... So yes, technically it was an 'invasion' but it was completely bloodless and morally sound.

    A large part of the reason for the western-backed coup in the Ukraine was to seize control of that naval base (very important for control of the Black Sea), so Russia dropped in the Spetsnaz, blocked out the Ukraine Army and ran the referendum one more time (with multiple international observers no less) and reclaimed the landmass.

    Regardless of the panicked nonsense coming out of the western media, there was no Russian military invasion of the Ukraine. A number of ex- or off-duty Russian soldiers entered to fight on the side of the Eastern republics, but that's a far cry from a 'Russian Invasion' given it wasn't state sanctioned and the numbers were not significant compared to those already fighting.

    I'm guessing your second 'invasion' was Georgia (though it was longer than 2 years ago)? The first shots were fired by Georgia because Saakashvili is a full-tilt nutcase, attempting to destroy Abkhazia because he was apparently convinced the Russians were going to attack him from there. Whether or not they intended to initially, they certainly did when his artillery started firing.

    It's worth noting that Saakashvili was and as is a US asset; after he lost all popularity in Georgia they moved him back into play to be the mayor of Odessa, and I believe he was being groomed to be Porky's replacement until he was driven out of the country.

    Lately Russia broke the Geneva convention by making those Ukrainian soldiers film a video stating Ukrainian blame. There's zero excuse for that. It's also against Russian law lol. They're supposed to be sharing medical information on the soldiers and then return them to Ukraine ASAP, as soon as they're healthy enough to. Which they already were it appears.

    I have no idea what you're talking about
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  8. #48
    lol, big fat orange nigger
  9. #49
    GGG victim of incest [my veinlike two-fold aepyornidae]
    Aldra you should google things.
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    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
  11. #51
    Soyboy III: The Quest for 911 Truth Tuskegee Airman [oppositely expose the hypermetropia]
    Let's not forget tge people of the Crimea voted to be part of Russia, same with the DPR.

    Not that white self determination matters at all to §m£ÂgØL.
  12. #52
    GGG victim of incest [my veinlike two-fold aepyornidae]
    It was illegal and not Crimea's or Russia's decision to make
  13. #53
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    so was Kosovo, as well as Crimea's original handover to Ukraine
  14. #54
    Soyboy III: The Quest for 911 Truth Tuskegee Airman [oppositely expose the hypermetropia]
    Originally posted by GGG It was illegal and not Crimea's or Russia's decision to make

    Yeah I already noted that you don't care what white people want.
  15. #55
    GGG victim of incest [my veinlike two-fold aepyornidae]
    Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING III: The Quest for 911 Truth Yeah I already noted that you don't care what white people want.

    I don't care what white people want. I fucking hate Caucasians. I thought this was clear?
  16. #56
    GGG victim of incest [my veinlike two-fold aepyornidae]
    Aldra I don't feel like researching enough to argue with you, but you know I'm right, right? I'm always right.
  17. #57
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by GGG Aldra I don't feel like researching enough to argue with you, but you know I'm right, right? I'm always right.

  18. #58
    Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by GGG If you haven't heard of the witness tampering you need to reread latest news. Because that was the main point.

    The only other time this happened, where a president has been explicitly listed in an FBI investigation, was Nixon.

    You dont even know what witness tampering means.
  19. #59
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    If, by some incredible chance, Trump was to be removed, you could say goodbye to everything you once knew.
  20. #60
    Technologist victim of incest
    What are these things we once knew? What, his BS last 2 years? He’ll be easily forgotten. Just another US pres that got busted for his criminal activity. He’ll have an * next to his name. That’s all he’ll ever be thought of.
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