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Problems of Multi-Ethnic Democracy

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    Odigo Messenger - Now With Free 911 Service Houston [back fudge my lingam]
    Everywhere you can see that multi-ethnic democracy devolves into a headcount, with different ethnicities and genders voting for their guys.

    That's not even worth debating, it's just a fact everywhere, from Ohio to Kenya, and if you don't agree you're simply badly informed and shouldn't even bother posting.

    For the future should it be required that each ethnicity get a certain representation, like proportional representation or a fixed electoral college, or should a candidate require approval from all ethnic and gender groups?

    How would you solve the fact that every western nation is quickly becoming turbo-bosnia on steroids? I mean solve nicely.
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    Technologist motherfucker
    You can’t solve a fact/





    Bring on multiculturalism! Boooyahhhhh!
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    Certainly we should recognise the importance of civic nationalism
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    mikeyagain African Astronaut [unalterably regard the persecutor]
    Hopefully I'll be the fuck out of here, before operation Walmart, goes into full effect... Woo hoo..
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    Originally posted by Odigo Messenger - Now With Free 911 Service Everywhere you can see that multi-ethnic democracy devolves into a headcount, with different ethnicities and genders voting for their guys.

    That's not even worth debating, it's just a fact everywhere, from Ohio to Kenya, and if you don't agree you're simply badly informed and shouldn't even bother posting.

    For the future should it be required that each ethnicity get a certain representation, like proportional representation or a fixed electoral college, or should a candidate require approval from all ethnic and gender groups?

    How would you solve the fact that every western nation is quickly becoming turbo-bosnia on steroids? I mean solve nicely.

    democracy simply wasnt designed to be used with, in or by groups of multi ethnic, cultural, multi religioned people.
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    Rizzo in a box African Astronaut [the rapidly lightproof ovariectomy]
    Originally posted by Odigo Messenger - Now With Free 911 Service Everywhere you can see that multi-ethnic democracy devolves into a headcount, with different ethnicities and genders voting for their guys.

    That's not even worth debating, it's just a fact everywhere, from Ohio to Kenya, and if you don't agree you're simply badly informed and shouldn't even bother posting.

    For the future should it be required that each ethnicity get a certain representation, like proportional representation or a fixed electoral college, or should a candidate require approval from all ethnic and gender groups?

    How would you solve the fact that every western nation is quickly becoming turbo-bosnia on steroids? I mean solve nicely.

    This has been talked about extensively. Think about it like a triangle, you have on each of the three ends either A) Liberty, B) Security, C) Multiculturalism. Choose two. If you want, or must have a multi-ethnic population, WHILE having a stable government you have to crack down hard on individual liberty. Singapore is a good example there. It can work, but it's nothing that a western populace, especially someplace like the USA, would ever accept. Well, I dunno, I guess the UK is trying it (to ill effect).

    You can have freedom and multicult, which is an anarcho-capitalist shithole dream. Or you can have freedom and security, which is what pre 1960's America was, or you can have security and multicult - which is what neoliberals are pushing for.

    Personally I'd rather have freedom and security and forgo multicult altogether. But if you multicult is an absolute, you have two positions. Anarchy or a police state.
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    Originally posted by Rizzo in a box This has been talked about extensively. Think about it like a triangle, you have on each of the three ends either A) Liberty, B) Security, C) Multiculturalism. Choose two. If you want, or must have a multi-ethnic population, WHILE having a stable government you have to crack down hard on individual liberty. Singapore is a good example there. It can work, but it's nothing that a western populace, especially someplace like the USA, would ever accept. Well, I dunno, I guess the UK is trying it (to ill effect).

    You can have freedom and multicult, which is an anarcho-capitalist shithole dream. Or you can have freedom and security, which is what pre 1960's America was, or you can have security and multicult - which is what neoliberals are pushing for.

    Personally I'd rather have freedom and security and forgo multicult altogether. But if you multicult is an absolute, you have two positions. Anarchy or a police state.

    you need to look north of it.
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    Odigo Messenger - Now With Free 911 Service Houston [back fudge my lingam]
    Originally posted by Mr Gay Men Watch Certainly we should recognise the importance of civic nationalism

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    Rizzo in a box African Astronaut [the rapidly lightproof ovariectomy]
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny you need to look north of it.

    yeah I guess Russia is another good example of multicult + security.
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    Odigo Messenger - Now With Free 911 Service Houston [back fudge my lingam]
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny democracy simply wasnt designed to be used with, in or by groups of multi ethnic, cultural, multi religioned people.

    Doesn't China cuck for ethnic minorities, like the Yi?
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    Rizzo in a box African Astronaut [the rapidly lightproof ovariectomy]
    Originally posted by Odigo Messenger - Now With Free 911 Service Doesn't China cuck for ethnic minorities, like the Yi?

    people literally propagate the lie that China is 95% Han Chinese when its actually filled up with lots of different ethnicities. It's like the EU saying every country is now just "white" (I know some white nationalists might like this but they're dumb), when in reality you have italians and poles and belgians and the french and krauts.

    Also china is literally putting muslims in concentration camps and brainwashing them. fuck muslims, but also fuck china dude, can't wait until that shithole implodes.
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    Odigo Messenger - Now With Free 911 Service Houston [back fudge my lingam]
    Originally posted by Rizzo in a box now just "white" (I know some white nationalists might like this but they're dumb), when in reality you have italians and poles and belgians and the french and krauts.

    Can you tell a Frenchman from a German? I can just about tell a Lithuanian from an Irish person, around half the time.

    At least if everyone thought of themselves as "white" there'd be less chance of more stupid intra-European wars.
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    Speedy Parker Naturally Camouflaged
    Im all for multiculturalism. Just keep the cultures separate or there will be no culture.
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    Rizzo in a box African Astronaut [the rapidly lightproof ovariectomy]
    Originally posted by Odigo Messenger - Now With Free 911 Service Can you tell a Frenchman from a German? I can just about tell a Lithuanian from an Irish person, around half the time.

    At least if everyone thought of themselves as "white" there'd be less chance of more stupid intra-European wars.

    yeah have you ever talked to a fucking kraut? really easy to pick out from a lineup. what about an aussie vs a dude from the UK? easy as fuck, australians are actually funny. what about a polish person vs a french person? easy as shit. cmon let's not play around, white people is a dumb lowest common denominator, nationalism is literally just one step below globalism, ethnic nationalism is the future and its going to be a lot crazier than people imagine.
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    Odigo Messenger - Now With Free 911 Service Houston [back fudge my lingam]
    Originally posted by Rizzo in a box yeah have you ever talked to a fucking kraut? really easy to pick out from a lineup. what about an aussie vs a dude from the UK? easy as fuck, australians are actually funny. what about a polish person vs a french person? easy as shit. cmon let's not play around, white people is a dumb lowest common denominator, nationalism is literally just one step below globalism, ethnic nationalism is the future and its going to be a lot crazier than people imagine.

    If you need to talk to people to learn where they're from then people from Cork are a different ethnic group to the Irish.
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    Rizzo in a box African Astronaut [the rapidly lightproof ovariectomy]
    Originally posted by Odigo Messenger - Now With Free 911 Service If you need to talk to people to learn where they're from then people from Cork are a different ethnic group to the Irish.

    how did race realists with a wide view of biodiversity turn into people that think 800+ million people are all basically the same because they're "white"?

    I dunno dude, I'm all for white people (I'm white, it's in my interests) but supposed "white nationalists" and their dumb ideas are so fucking terrible I wonder why even bother. jedis aren't event the biggest antagonists to white people, it's fellow white people (real ones). Sure, they're being funded by jedis but Antifa is made up of like 90% white as fuck WASP tier people. Trying to bring all white people together because they're white is like, lol, herding cats? That might be a step up. Think about this shit before you larp all over the internet.
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    GGG victim of incest [my veinlike two-fold aepyornidae]
    Devolves? Democrats have been trying to find a good solution to the problem of economic crisis because of the economy and the fat girls will be able to notice by how it feels to be a joke about how the Cantonese can make a difference in the life of their children and their children are not allowed to be treated like the loophole and boys in the hood the dynamite hack version and everyone's a little bit racist for the first time in forever
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    Odigo Messenger - Now With Free 911 Service Houston [back fudge my lingam]
    Originally posted by Rizzo in a box how did race realists with a wide view of biodiversity turn into people that think 800+ million people are all basically the same because they're "white"?

    That's a complex question because in Europe you actually can still be "Irish" or "Spanish", even if I can't tell them apart, but in America you have had an ethnogenesis - the formation of a new people - because whites all fucked each other and most white Americans genuinely don't know what they are.

    Even in Europe the genetics are all mixed up, for instance most Irish have some British ancestry. Only the extreme west coast is "pure" Irish.

    supposed "white nationalists" and their dumb ideas are so fucking terrible I wonder why even bother.

    If you want to understand white nationalism, look at black nationalism. That's the idea that blacks have nothing to gain from being in the current empire, and should separate.

    Now you understand why white nationalism is such a threat - because unlike with blacks if whites separate and walk away the empire collapses. It's like if during the Roman Empire a bunch of Italian nationalists sprung up - what would the Emperor think about that?

    jedis aren't event the biggest antagonists to white people, it's fellow white people (real ones). Sure, they're being funded by jedis but Antifa is made up of like 90% white as fuck WASP tier people. Trying to bring all white people together because they're white is like

    This is very true. Whites will fuck their whole race over for a slightly bigger house, or a slightly nicer car.

    OTOH jedis will take major individual risks (look at the jedi spies in Arab lands) and very significant financial hits (oy my shekels!) to advance their collective agenda.

    I don't think most whites have what it takes to belong to a tribe, race or group. The sooner they die out the better.
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    Rizzo in a box African Astronaut [the rapidly lightproof ovariectomy]
    Originally posted by Odigo Messenger - Now With Free 911 Service That's a complex question because in Europe you actually can still be "Irish" or "Spanish", even if I can't tell them apart, but in America you have had an ethnogenesis - the formation of a new people - because whites all fucked each other and most white Americans genuinely don't know what they are.

    Even in Europe the genetics are all mixed up, for instance most Irish have some British ancestry. Only the extreme west coast is "pure" Irish.


    If you want to understand white nationalism, look at black nationalism. That's the idea that blacks have nothing to gain from being in the current empire, and should separate.

    Now you understand why white nationalism is such a threat - because unlike with blacks if whites separate and walk away the empire collapses. It's like if during the Roman Empire a bunch of Italian nationalists sprung up - what would the Emperor think about that?



    This is very true. Whites will fuck their whole race over for a slightly bigger house, or a slightly nicer car.

    OTOH jedis will take major individual risks (look at the jedi spies in Arab lands) and very significant financial hits (oy my shekels!) to advance their collective agenda.

    I don't think most whites have what it takes to belong to a tribe, race or group. The sooner they die out the better.

    In America you don't really have a pure ethnogenesis, because regionality is super important. Remember, a lot of states are the size of entire European countries. East coast vs west coast, mid west vs south west, south vs north, coasts vs inland. White people from California and Texas are not interchangeable assets in the global game of racial supremacy. In the future I think we're going to see massive DE-SCALEing. Globalism is bad, but so is nationalism. Regionalism is better, but why not City States? We've become so connected and so aware and so multicultural, that the only option is a complete breakdown into lines which will benefit no one, not on the national scale.

    people don't like to talk about the sort of shit I'm talking about though, because it doesn't sell, it's not an attractive idea, and you can't hype people up about it.
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    Odigo Messenger - Now With Free 911 Service Houston [back fudge my lingam]
    Originally posted by Rizzo in a box In the future I think we're going to see massive DE-SCALEing

    Are you coming from MPC? Pleasureman has a whole theory about SCALE over there, but he locked the whole thing behind a shitty paywall.
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