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Doing a NAS Build
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2018-08-20 at 6:13 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie I was keeping a local mirror of all my GH projects anyway, why wouldn't you? Also 6TB, is good amount of storage, i need to repair my old PC, i got 2TB of storage with 250 SSD for the OS on that one. Got lazy and bought an off the shelf PC and rolled Backbox Ubuntu onto it. Oh well.
My dev machine only has a 256GB SSD in it, and some of my projects have large binaries or datasets in them so I can't really store them all at once.
Originally posted by PrettyHateMachine Just back your stuff up to lto6 or 7 then for accessing media locally or over the net throw some 10tb drives in a tower and install freenas.
Raid is gay and backing stuff up to a hard drive is for retards.
I have a wdex4100 with 24tb of storage, it's pretty naisu.
I was using it as a torrent server and storage but now I'm thinking of dedicating it as a Plex server for VR.
For me personally, as far as backing things up goes I'm gonna save up and buy a lto7 drive and some tapes.
Lto7 tapes are 15tb … should be enough.
Even fairly simply operations like rsync on a tape FS is a pain, and it'd be nice if I could seed/access content while it's stored. I don't really see the advantage of tape over a redundant RAID configuration in this situation.
P.S. Cockulus Go is incapable of displaying a 4K image even if 100% of the display was usable for video, which it will never be because it's designed to include enough of your peripheral vision that your effective resolution is likely worse than 1080
Originally posted by aldra why not just get a dedicated NAS device?
Do you have any suggestions? I poked around a bit but didn't find anything that really caught my attention. A lot came with something obnoxious like synology and generally didn't seem to end up having bette specs for the money than a DIY build, unless there's some specialized NAS hardware requirements I don't understand. -
2018-08-20 at 8:17 AM UTCSounds great, but why not grab a retired workstation PC and use it? They often have space for 4 hard drives.
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2018-08-20 at 9:26 AM UTC
Originally posted by Cootehill Sounds great, but why not grab a retired workstation PC and use it? They often have space for 4 hard drives.
Small apartment so I kinda want the smaller form factor although it's not that big of a deal. I don't have a spare chassis but I could probably find a workstation dirt cheap on craigslist, hadn't really thought about it.Also have you considered throwing in a small SSD to run the OS from?
I could but I'm not sure how much benefit I'd see from it. It's going to be on 24/7 so it could take half an hour to boot for all I care, and it'll be stationary so there's no argument to be made for the shock resistance. Faster paging is good but I'm not thinking the workload I'm going to have on it is going to require a lot of that. -
2018-08-20 at 9:31 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny Do you have any suggestions? I poked around a bit but didn't find anything that really caught my attention. A lot came with something obnoxious like synology and generally didn't seem to end up having bette specs for the money than a DIY build, unless there's some specialized NAS hardware requirements I don't understand.
I've got a D-Link DNS-345, looks like it's been discontinued though
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2018-08-20 at 12:58 PM UTC
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2018-08-20 at 2:16 PM UTCheh. you know, if lanny creates his own server, we could joke that we're just a bunch of ones and zeroes underneath lanny's bed.
been on NIS since 2015, you know. found out about it in a gay porn magazine. -
2018-08-20 at 3:44 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra have you actually used one? resolution leaves a lot to be desired, I'd wait a few generations
I own the dk1 and have watched hundreds of hours in that.
If the CV1 and Go are an improvement over that then they should be plenty good enough for me.
I can deal with slightly suboar for the next couple years until the next generation rolls out. -
2018-08-20 at 5:40 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I've got a D-Link DNS-345, looks like it's been discontinued though
have worked with Synology stuff before though, what don't you like about them?
I remember the packages it came with were stupidly out of date and built with their most stripped down options like you'd find on an embedded device (I remember vim was built without an edit history so hitting undo multiple times would oscillate between the previous and current state endlessly), the package manager seemed to be some janky ass web UI that had no selection, and I couldn't build modern software from source because the version of glibc was so old. Like I get that a NAS is not a full desktop but it's connected to power and resource constraints aren't that tight. Why not use a standard server distro and throw your shitty web frontend I'm going to ignore on top of that instead of trying to roll a NAS specific distro? -
2018-08-23 at 10:33 PM UTCIn RAID5 that would give you 4TB storage, nominal? Seems kinda $$ for the amount of storage. If a drive fails and you re-build, you would want to do it with like drives right? Is there any issue with rebuilding the entire array with all-new drives of a different type ( larger capacity ) at that time?
Curious, I would like to build a media server at some point - are multiples of 3 drives the most efficient arrangement for usable capacity in RAID5? I don't know if I'll ever pull the trigger, I want to start buying movies on disc and ripping them but not sure I want to put money into it when a new better resolution/format is probably going to come out and make my collection the equivalent of a pile of VHS tapes. -
2018-08-23 at 11:08 PM UTCIs there any software that allows a NAS to function on the LAN when you're at home, and then function over the internet like Dropbox when you're away from home?
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2018-08-23 at 11:46 PM UTC
Originally posted by Cootehill Is there any software that allows a NAS to function on the LAN when you're at home, and then function over the internet like Dropbox when you're away from home?
That's what a nas is
Idk how to do it in freenas but the mycloud devices are advertised specifically for this -
2018-08-24 at 1:54 AM UTC
Originally posted by A College Professor In RAID5 that would give you 4TB storage, nominal? Seems kinda $$ for the amount of storage. If a drive fails and you re-build, you would want to do it with like drives right? Is there any issue with rebuilding the entire array with all-new drives of a different type ( larger capacity ) at that time?
Right, 4TB of storage total. Strictly speaking you can have a mixture of drives in RAID5, even different capacities, it's just your whole array's capacity is N-1 time the smallest drive's capacity, and performance is dictated by the performance of the slowest drive, so typically you want all the drives to be as similar as possible. It is a bit pricy for the amount of storage but I don't see myself needing more than 4TB and could easily add in more drives to expand that (pretty sure expanding an array is trivial, even if it takes a little while).Curious, I would like to build a media server at some point - are multiples of 3 drives the most efficient arrangement for usable capacity in RAID5? I don't know if I'll ever pull the trigger, I want to start buying movies on disc and ripping them but not sure I want to put money into it when a new better resolution/format is probably going to come out and make my collection the equivalent of a pile of VHS tapes.
3 is the minimum number of drives you need to build a RAID5 array (RAID1 is way simpler and has the same properties as RAID5 at 2 disks) and supports any number of disks over 3 with the same performance so multiples don't really matter. In practice you want to switch up to RAID6 at some point because RAID5 tolerates failure of one disk but not two, and as you increase your number of disks your chances of simultaneous disk failures (or fringe cases that aren't total failures but uncorrectable errors in other disks) go up.
Originally posted by Cootehill Is there any software that allows a NAS to function on the LAN when you're at home, and then function over the internet like Dropbox when you're away from home?
Yeah, that's how it works by default. There's really not much different between LAN and the internet at large form the perspective of endpoint machines. You might have to set up port forwarding at your router and be aware that if you have a residential connection you probably have garbage upload speeds but you could definitely run something like syncthing (similar functionality to Dropbox) on a NAS and you probably wouldn't notice the difference.
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2018-08-27 at 3:16 PM UTCParts are trickling in, kinda excited to do my first build in a while. Of course nothing ever arrives in the order you should install it.
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2018-08-29 at 1:41 AM UTCthe build... BEGINS!
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2018-08-29 at 1:54 AM UTCGet a couch you faggot
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2018-08-29 at 2:50 AM UTCwut?
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2018-08-29 at 2:51 AM UTCThe parts:
PSU on top of the drives on the left, CPU and ram on top of the mobo on the right. Shoutouts to my screwdriver:
First build I've done where I actually had a real screwdriver as opposed to a pocket knife or trying to do it with a coin.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2018-08-29 at 2:54 AM UTCEmpty:
Putting the CPU in the mobo:
This used to be a huge pain in the ass with putting what felt like wayyyy too much pressure on the heatsink to get it to pop in, my last build it was better so I figured we'd gotten past it but no, the AM4 bracketed layout is back to leaning on the mobo until I felt like it was going to break into little pieces. Finally got that fucker in:
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2018-08-29 at 3 AM UTCHad to take the drive rack out to be able to get stuff in there. I'm used to full tower builds so it felt a lot more cramped. Hooking everything up to the motherboard was a bitch and I started wishing I did it before putting the thing in the case before long
With the drives in:
Plugging stuff in:
And complete:
It boots on the first try too, yay -
2018-08-29 at 3:05 AM UTCI like that rug.
