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2017-11-21 at 11:51 PM UTC
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2017-11-22 at 12:05 AM UTC
Originally posted by Open Your Mind So why is communism incompatible with humans? And how would you describe or define communism?
(I'm going to read the book, But I want to get your opinion)
One more word, greed. That is why humans could never make it work. That and motivation. If I have an equal share of everything regardless of effort why make an effort. If nobody makes and effort everybody gets nothing. -
2017-11-22 at 1:39 AM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker I don't read Wikipedia. I'd rather have accurate information than a random editors opinions.
Fine, read Marx of your mind isn't rotted from Aesop's Political Critique. The first chapter of Das Kapital should be more than enough to explain how Soviet Russia was not communism at any point. -
2017-11-22 at 1:40 AM UTC
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2017-11-22 at 3:41 AM UTC
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2017-11-22 at 3:42 AM UTCThis conversation is some polarized retardation.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-11-22 at 6:30 AM UTC1. Close reg
2. Communism would work if it happened
3. Communism is never going to happen -
2017-11-22 at 6:36 AM UTC
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2017-11-22 at 6:37 AM UTCmeth doesn't take holidays
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2017-11-22 at 6:47 AM UTC
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2017-11-22 at 8:50 AM UTCCommunism has never been successfully tried before. But trust me, if I, yes, I were in charge, shit would be fine. You see, all those other guys - they were corrupt failures. But I'm different. I'm superior.
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2017-11-22 at 10:09 AM UTC
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2017-11-22 at 12:44 PM UTC
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2017-11-22 at 1:49 PM UTCOf course "real communism" has never occurred because a collective society of human brains cannot apply the theory to practice since they've evolved for millions of years under dominance hierarchies. Communism will ALWAYS lead to a dictator. It's really not that complicated
Communism; great idea, WRONG SPECIES. We are not fucking ants
How about people stop tipping their fedoras after reading some "intellectual" theoretical armchair bullshit and start living in the real world
I swear to god high IQ intellectuals are the bane of our existence, no wonder everybody hates jedisThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-11-22 at 2:10 PM UTC
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2017-11-22 at 5:45 PM UTC
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2017-11-22 at 6:09 PM UTC
Originally posted by Daily Of course "real communism" has never occurred because a collective society of human brains cannot apply the theory to practice since they've evolved for millions of years under dominance hierarchies. Communism will ALWAYS lead to a dictator. It's really not that complicated
Communism; great idea, WRONG SPECIES. We are not fucking ants
How about people stop tipping their fedoras after reading some "intellectual" theoretical armchair bullshit and start living in the real world
I swear to god high IQ intellectuals are the bane of our existence, no wonder everybody hates jedis
Ants have a social hierarchy. It's actually pretty intense. They even got queens n shit. -
2017-11-22 at 9:04 PM UTC
Originally posted by Open Your Mind I did notice that. How would you define or describe communism, Lanny? Why do you think it would work despite the "greed" factor Parker mentioned?
Per Marx, Communism is characterized by communal ownership of the means of production (things like factory equipment are owned by the community, which democratically organizes their use and product), absence of a state, and absence of social classes. I don't have a particular position on wether communism can or can't work. People are free to argue one way or other but citing fiction about talking farm animals or the failures of the Soviet Union both miss the point wholly. Now Marx also has a theory of how capitalistic societies will transform into communisms via workers' revolution and ensuing dictatorship of the proletariat which I think is fair to criticize as it's been an empirically unsuccessful hypothesis so far. But it's important to separate that theory social transformation from Communism proper, they're not the same thing.
So the central point here was that the Soviet Union, even in its own highly charitable estimation of itself, never progressed past the "dictatorship of the proletariat" stage and thus was never a Communist society. -
2017-11-22 at 11:31 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny Per Marx, Communism is characterized by communal ownership of the means of production (things like factory equipment are owned by the community, which democratically organizes their use and product), absence of a state, and absence of social classes. I don't have a particular position on wether communism can or can't work. People are free to argue one way or other but citing fiction about talking farm animals or the failures of the Soviet Union both miss the point wholly. Now Marx also has a theory of how capitalistic societies will transform into communisms via workers' revolution and ensuing dictatorship of the proletariat which I think is fair to criticize as it's been an empirically unsuccessful hypothesis so far. But it's important to separate that theory social transformation from Communism proper, they're not the same thing.
So the central point here was that the Soviet Union, even in its own highly charitable estimation of itself, never progressed past the "dictatorship of the proletariat" stage and thus was never a Communist society.
So it goes. -
2017-11-22 at 11:54 PM UTC
