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2020-02-20 at 5:39 AM UTC
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2020-02-20 at 12:53 PM UTCI could make a rocket ship if I wanted but the GOVERNMENT keeps trying to put chains on me for making "high explosives" and "radiological hazards"
Pussies. If this was the 1900s I would have already been to the moon -
2020-02-20 at 1 PM UTC
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2020-02-20 at 2:02 PM UTC
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2020-02-21 at 2:43 AM UTC
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2020-02-21 at 2:38 PM UTC
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2020-02-21 at 6:40 PM UTC
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2020-02-21 at 7:34 PM UTC
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2020-02-21 at 10:15 PM UTC
Originally posted by snab_snib americans invented the worlds best gun, so every american should be required by law to have guns and ammo. prison sentences if you refuse to have guns.
Which gun is that? Maxim gun was the most game changing gun in history. Which was invented by an American born Brit. Else there's no best gun. Every one has it's purpose. Browning machine guns are adaptations of the Maxim. Sure winchester makes some nice lever rifles, but there's a reason the european bolt actions became the standard military arm.
AR15s are personal defence weapons. Military no longer uses rifles as it's main fighting weapon. Anything with an internal combustion or jet engine does majority of the fighting. Thus an AR15 is by no means the best rifle. -
2020-02-21 at 10:21 PM UTC
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2020-02-21 at 10:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country What are you defending yourself from? How can I survive just fine without one?
I'm talking about the context they're used in, in the military. Because such a small fraction of the fighting is done with rifles, they saw no need to have heavy duty rifles issued to all soldiers. Now only a few select marksmen get M14s and the rest have M4s (atleast in Afghanistan). Because they're not really expected to use it. The soldiers given M14s are expected to use them, which is why they're designated marksmen. Rest just call in airstrikes and backup whenever they spot the enemy. Using your rifle is a last resort. You don't want to give away your position when you can just call in a strike.
In civilian context, who did the Poles have to protect themselves from in 1938? You don't know what the future holds, which is why the 2a is so important. -
2020-02-21 at 10:33 PM UTC
Originally posted by Splam Which gun is that? Maxim gun was the most game changing gun in history. Which was invented by an American born Brit. Else there's no best gun. Every one has it's purpose. Browning machine guns are adaptations of the Maxim. Sure winchester makes some nice lever rifles, but there's a reason the european bolt actions became the standard military arm.
AR15s are personal defence weapons. Military no longer uses rifles as it's main fighting weapon. Anything with an internal combustion or jet engine does majority of the fighting. Thus an AR15 is by no means the best rifle.
Saying it was invented by an American born brit is like everything invented by an American is attributed to the nation of that Americans heritage. Maxim was an American period. Born in the country of America, in state of Maine. As for the bolt action rifle it held prominence for about 40 years but the longest serving bolt action rifle in history was the Springfield 1903 another American weapon. It saw service from around 1905 until the the Vietnam War where the M1903A4 saw some use as a sniper rifle. Hell the US nay still has some M1903A4s on certain ships to use as ant mine rifles. The KAR 98 and Lee- Enfield never saw a days action past WWII and were outdated then. Unless you count those shitty Ishapore 2A1 rifles rechambered for 7.62 -
2020-02-21 at 10:40 PM UTC
Originally posted by Splam I'm talking about the context they're used in, in the military. Because such a small fraction of the fighting is done with rifles, they saw no need to have heavy duty rifles issued to all soldiers. Now only a few select marksmen get M14s and the rest have M4s (atleast in Afghanistan). Because they're not really expected to use it. The soldiers given M14s are expected to use them, which is why they're designated marksmen. Rest just call in airstrikes and backup whenever they spot the enemy. Using your rifle is a last resort. You don't want to give away your position when you can just call in a strike.
M4 is smaller, lighter, more expensive. All virtues. And in Afghanistan firefights seem to be mostly about suppression, getting your enemy to keep his head down, until the big expensive drones and planes can make an appearance.In civilian context, who did the Poles have to protect themselves from in 1938? You don't know what the future holds, which is why the 2a is so important.
Poland in 1938 was a militaristic right-wing fascist republic, extremely based. That's something that gets lost in the jedi propaganda - but it's why they lasted so long against both the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany.
And yes, Hitler was a bit of a fucker for cutting a deal with Stalin and invading it.
OTOH Hitler knew Stalin's bosses (yes, Stalin was just the goy) had the intention of invading West Europe sooner or later anyway.
So IDK. -
2020-02-21 at 10:48 PM UTC
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2020-02-21 at 10:52 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker Saying it was invented by an American born brit is like everything invented by an American is attributed to the nation of that Americans heritage. Maxim was an American period. Born in the country of America, in state of Maine. As for the bolt action rifle it held prominence for about 40 years but the longest serving bolt action rifle in history was the Springfield 1903 another American weapon
Actually Enfield is longest serving. Canadian rangers just recently phased out their Enfield No4s in original .303 caliber. Last military force to do so. Militias around the world still use it including the taliban. Don't think many springfields still pop up in war zones. In any case Springfield 1903 is a German design and lacks compared to the Enfield in every way. Which is why we never replaced our bolt rifles until after the war - our bolt rifles were fast enough at throwing lead down range. Canadian Rangers used it until now because it's a great cold weather design, lots of power to fight off polar bears, and it doesn't jam like automatics in the high arctic. Canadian rangers replaced the enfield with another bolt action rifle, the Tikka T3. Mostly due to problems sourcing military spec .303 ammunition and running out of spare parts. -
2020-02-21 at 11:08 PM UTC
Originally posted by Splam In any case Springfield 1903 is a German design
Wrong again. It was inspired by the shortcomings of the Danish Krag-Jorgensen when, In 1896, the .30-40 “Model 1896 Krag Rifle” became the United States Army’s first bolt-action, magazine, smokeless-powder service rifle. These shortcomings included a cumbersome locking system, a low-powered cartridge, and its difficulty in adapting to clip-loading especially when compared to the Spaniards’ more effective charger-loaded German Model 1893 Mauser rifle.
As a result of this experience the United States Army Ordnance Board authorized the Springfield Armory to to manufacture an experimental magazine rifle based on the Mauser and Krag. As a result of the prototype tests conducted in the late fall of 1900 the board recommended the adoption of this new rifle and the Springfield 1903 was born. -
2020-02-21 at 11:23 PM UTCMauser bolt. All operation on the 1903 springfield is more or less identical to the Gewehr 98. The entire intent of the springfield was to copy the Mauser. No original American innovation used there.
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2020-02-22 at 12:18 AM UTCA debate on rifle gauges......................................
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2020-02-22 at 12:22 AM UTCI would join in this discussion but unfortunately guns are illegal where I live
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2020-02-22 at 12:31 AM UTC
