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2020-02-10 at 12:43 AM UTCThey were denying the right specifically to IMMIGRANTS who acquire citizenship after a process of working and living in the country. Because their loyalty could never be verified, they didn't want them as president. Arnold for example. How do you know he's not still loyal to Austria? You know what happened the last time an Austrian became leader of a foreign country?
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2020-02-10 at 12:50 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra then why make the distinction at all?
"non-natural born citizens can run for president this election but NEVER AGAIN!"
That's right. They were saying that if you were not a natural born citizen before the writing of the law, then you were still eligible. A grandfather clause. -
2020-02-10 at 12:51 AM UTC
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2020-02-10 at 12:54 AM UTCSee, these dishonest and lawless Democrat retards have been using a new trick for the past couple of decades, and that's to re-interpret the plain language of the law. They've transformed themselves into English teachers, and they're going to explain to you what the Constitution and the USC really meant to say. They're going to give you their opinions and try to pass it off as law. But don't be fooled. The lawmakers were quite capable of wording a law exactly the way they meant it; they never needed a bunch of retards and their opinions on what they didn't say.
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2020-02-10 at 12:58 AM UTCThe plain language of the law stops immigrants from acquiring citizenship then becoming president. It'll stop Arnold and that's it's intention. Also the language isn't as plain as you may think. It derives from English law, where the English wanted colonists to be regarded as British subjects. Never was it the intention of the founding fathers to verify your mom hadn't crossed the 49th parallel when you were borne, and neither does the language suggest so.
Yes the democrats do play word tricks and games like that. But this isn't one of them. -
2020-02-10 at 12:59 AM UTC
Originally posted by Splam The plain language of the law stops immigrants from acquiring citizenship then becoming president. It'll stop Arnold and that's it's intention. Also the language isn't as plain as you may think. It derives from English law, where the English wanted colonists to be regarded as British subjects. Never was it the intention of the founding fathers to verify your mom hadn't crossed the 49th parallel when you were borne, and neither does the language suggest so.
Yes the democrats do play word tricks and games like that. But this isn't one of them.
Bottom line: the plain language of the law is the law, until it's legally changed. -
2020-02-10 at 1 AM UTCNo it's not, because there is no law barring it. Some people have interpreted it as you have, but they've never threatened to go to the courts over Cruz or McCain . It says 'natural born US citizen'. It does not say 'you must be born in the USA'. That would be plain text. AFAIK a law is only valid as it is enforced. Nowhere in the wording does it suggest what you say, and nowhere has it been enforced as you say.
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2020-02-10 at 1:04 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL See, these dishonest and lawless Democrat retards have been using a new trick for the past couple of decades, and that's to re-interpret the plain language of the law. They've transformed themselves into English teachers, and they're going to explain to you what the Constitution and the USC really meant to say. They're going to give you their opinions and try to pass it off as law. But don't be fooled. The lawmakers were quite capable of wording a law exactly the way they meant it; they never needed a bunch of retards and their opinions on what they didn't say.
You interpret the bible as saying the earth is 6,000 years old. Shut your goofy ass up. -
2020-02-10 at 1:07 AM UTC
Originally posted by Splam They were denying the right specifically to IMMIGRANTS who acquire citizenship after a process of working and living in the country. Because their loyalty could never be verified, they didn't want them as president. Arnold for example. How do you know he's not still loyal to Austria? You know what happened the last time an Austrian became leader of a foreign country?
yea like all those US born joos have loyalty to US instead of isreal. -
2020-02-10 at 1:09 AM UTCone day US shall have a hardcore juden president and on that day i shall buy expensive whiskey to celebrate.
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2020-02-10 at 1:10 AM UTC
Originally posted by Splam No it's not, because there is no law barring it. Some people have interpreted it as you have, but they've never threatened to go to the courts over Cruz or McCain . It says 'natural born US citizen'. It does not say 'you must be born in the USA'. AFAIK a law is only valid as it is enforced.
The only way you can bar a law is by having a newer law to bar it. You cannot bar a law with the absence of another law.
A natural born citizen IS naturally born in the USA. The word, "natural", means "by nature".
nature : being in accordance with or determined by nature
natural impulses
: begotten as distinguished from adopted
their natural son
: being a relation by actual consanguinity as distinguished from adoption
natural parents
: implanted or being as if implanted by nature : seemingly inborn
: having a normal or usual character
: not having any extra substances or chemicals added : not containing anything artificial -
2020-02-10 at 1:15 AM UTC
Originally posted by larrylegend8383 You interpret the bible as saying the earth is 6,000 years old. Shut your goofy ass up.
Where you're wrong is the biblical account provides exact dates and exact lengths of time, and with simple mathematics and the process of deduction, one can prove man is six thousand years old. If you had actually studied the ancient manuscripts and the information therein, like I have, you would know that, but you are just talking about a subject you really know absolutely nothing about. -
2020-02-10 at 1:40 AM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL The only way you can bar a law is by having a newer law to bar it. You cannot bar a law with the absence of another law.
A natural born citizen IS naturally born in the USA. The word, "natural", means "by nature".
nature : being in accordance with or determined by nature
natural impulses
: begotten as distinguished from adopted
their natural son
: being a relation by actual consanguinity as distinguished from adoption
natural parents
: implanted or being as if implanted by nature : seemingly inborn
: having a normal or usual character
: not having any extra substances or chemicals added : not containing anything artificial
It says natural born as a citizen.
It does not say natural born in country.
There is no law barring it because the interpretation you use is wrong, was never intended by the founding fathers, and has never been enforced by congress.
They are barring people who adopt citizenship, in contrast to those naturally born with it. -
2020-02-10 at 6:52 AM UTCbeen awhile since haggitha (rottenrobert) has even participated in this thread.
he was old as dirt when he was on DH.
wonder where the depends wearing mental midget is at.
at one time he had massive heart surgery that ended up being a real miracle to save his life.
as much as i enjoy pissing on the old man, sure hope he is still on this side of the living. -
2020-02-10 at 6:54 AM UTChmm his last post was 2020-01-31 at 2:56 AM UTC in Dump idiot Trump, 11 days ago
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2020-02-10 at 7:15 AM UTC
Originally posted by iam_asiam68 been awhile since haggitha (rottenrobert) has even participated in this thread.
he was old as dirt when he was on DH.
wonder where the depends wearing mental midget is at.
at one time he had massive heart surgery that ended up being a real miracle to save his life.
as much as i enjoy pissing on the old man, sure hope he is still on this side of the living.
You're such a fail troll its unbelievable -
2020-02-10 at 7:24 AM UTCthat's good because i never tried to be a troll. who has time to be something they are not, except you?
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2020-02-10 at 11:35 AM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE You are a mentally defective boomer who doesn't understand how probabilities work. 35% chance doesn't mean 0%. Even 2% doesn't mean 0%. Saying something is degrees of unlikely doesn't make it impossible. Literally nobody said it was impossible. So idk why you retards keep pretending someone did.
52% of Americans supporting Trump's impeachment was the part that was bullshit, idiot. Just like them saying he had a 1% approval the night he got elected.
Bottom line is he's still in office. -
2020-02-10 at 11:57 AM UTC
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2020-02-10 at 12:04 PM UTC