Dump idiot Trump

1. 2020-01-19 at 9:35 PM UTC

   #3621
   

   Splam African Astronaut
   https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/12978-Ukraine-Law-Enforcement-MLAT-7.22.1998.pdf
2. 2020-01-19 at 9:35 PM UTC

   #3622
   The Self Taught Man Black Hole

   Originally posted by Splam Most countries outside of the USA only get CNN. Almost no western countries have a good image of Trump as a result.

   
   Who gives a fuck? They can’t vote in our election
   The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!

   • Technologist
3. 2020-01-19 at 9:36 PM UTC

   #3623
   The Self Taught Man Black Hole

   Originally posted by Splam https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/12978-Ukraine-Law-Enforcement-MLAT-7.22.1998.pdf

   
   Article and section please. I’m not gonna read a fucking dictionary because you’re too lazy to actually try and prove your point
4. 2020-01-19 at 9:39 PM UTC

   #3624
   

   Splam African Astronaut

   Originally posted by Fox Oh yeah what law is that? Please cite the specific statute

   
   

   1. Each Contracting State shall have a Central Authority to make and receive requests pursuant to this Treaty.
   
   2. For the United States of America, the Central Authority shall be the
   Attorney General or a person designated by the Attorney General. For Ukraine, the
   Central Authority shall be the Ministry of Justice and the Office of the Prosecutor
   General.

   
   Article 1 and Article 2.
5. 2020-01-19 at 9:39 PM UTC

   #3625
   The Self Taught Man Black Hole
   Where does it say Trump is personally and legally obligated to do fuck-all for Ukraine? Show me that part
6. 2020-01-19 at 9:40 PM UTC

   #3626
   The Self Taught Man Black Hole
   This just says “shall have”. Shall, not must
7. 2020-01-19 at 9:41 PM UTC

   #3627
   

   Splam African Astronaut
   Again you're impeaching Trump for doing his fucking job.
   If he wasn't doing his job, and willfully overlooking possible corruption in Ukraine, then he should be impeached.
   
   Shall or must, he's simply overlooking possible corruption that just so happens to be the son of his political opponent. This is not illegal.
   
   He never actually withheld aid. If you're impeaching him based on intent, well then Bill Clinton intended on getting his dick sucked. It's too vague would never stand up in an actual court.
8. 2020-01-19 at 9:44 PM UTC

   #3628
   The Self Taught Man Black Hole

   Originally posted by Splam Again you're impeaching Trump for doing his fucking job.

   
   It’s more like he made a request, a literal quid pro quo (which has been proven through testimony by those with direct knowledge), for the Ukrainian government to launch a personally beneficial investigation into his political opponent, in return for things that Ukraine wanted. And if they didn’t do what he asked for, they would not get those things
9. 2020-01-19 at 9:45 PM UTC

   #3629
   The Self Taught Man Black Hole

   Originally posted by Splam He never actually withheld aid.

   
   Yes he did, he released it immediately after the whistleblower came out lol.
   
   And it wasn’t just the aid, there were other things Trump was offering Ukraine
10. 2020-01-19 at 9:46 PM UTC

    #3630
    

    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]

    Originally posted by Splam Most countries outside of the USA only get CNN. Almost no western countries have a good image of Trump as a result.

    
    Our media take their cues from the New York Times and other "prestigious" publications, no joke. Whatever slant they decide on our media just follows along, like tame morons.
11. 2020-01-19 at 9:48 PM UTC

    #3631
    

    Splam African Astronaut
    He made a request in line with the anti-corruption agreement with Ukraine.
    Him jokingly saying withholding aid put no pressure on Ukrainian officials and they've admit to this.
    Biden actually did withhold aid from Ukraine till they did as he said.
12. 2020-01-19 at 9:48 PM UTC

    #3632
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole

    Originally posted by Fox Yes he did, he released it immediately after the whistleblower came out lol.

    
    I just double checked on this, sorry I was wrong.
    
    He withheld the aid and then released it 2 days after 3 house committees launched an investigation into the hold
13. 2020-01-19 at 9:51 PM UTC

    #3633
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole

    Originally posted by Splam He made a request in line with the anti-corruption agreement with Ukraine.
    Him jokingly saying withholding aid put no pressure on Ukrainian officials and they've admit to this.
    Biden actually did withhold aid from Ukraine till they did as he said.

    
    There was no joking about it. Trump directed Rudy Giuliani to work with Gordon Sondland, the US ambassador to the EU, to coordinate the quid pro quo with Ukraine. Sondland, a Trump donor and Trump appointee, literally testified to this in front of Congress on national tv
14. 2020-01-19 at 9:57 PM UTC

    #3634
    

    Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]

    Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace "I want a president who is as retarded as I am"
    
    -speedy

    
    You are an amateur.
15. 2020-01-19 at 9:57 PM UTC

    #3635
    

    Splam African Astronaut
    What if Hunter Biden is actually corrupt? Then Trump is innocent. Hence in order to convict Trump you must clear Hunter.
    
    In any case, if Trump becomes a criminal for talking about withholding aid, then Biden should be convicted for actually withholding aid. Common law.
16. 2020-01-19 at 10 PM UTC

    #3636
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole
    Even if there was any legitimate basis for Trump to request the Biden investigation, which is a dubious proposition at best, there is literally no justifiable reason to tie that request to releasing the aid, giving Zelensky a White House meeting, etc.
17. 2020-01-19 at 10 PM UTC

    #3637
    The Self Taught Man Black Hole
    And again he didn’t just talk about it. He actually did it. For months lol. He only released it within days of the start of an investigation into the hold
18. 2020-01-19 at 10:02 PM UTC

    #3638
    

    Splam African Astronaut
    Again you can't criticize Trump for that, to the point you want him removed from office, without acknowledging Biden's past behaviour.
    You have to prove hard intent. If spewing out a sentence could criminalize anyone, we'd all be in prison.
19. 2020-01-19 at 10:03 PM UTC

    #3639
    

    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]

    Originally posted by Splam What if Hunter Biden is actually corrupt?

    
    An American hereditary oligarch operating in the Ukraine corrupt? What a bizarre hypothetical.
20. 2020-01-19 at 10:03 PM UTC

    #3640
    

    Splam African Astronaut
    If Hunter Biden has nothing to hide, what is he afraid of?
    
    Obama would be right to investigate Trump's foreign business ventures too if they showed signs of corruption (which I'm sure they all do). No democrat would disagree with that. Not to mention all these politicians have way more than enough money to launch private investigations into each other and I'm certain they all do.