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Hydromorphone to be available from Vancouver vending machines for 32 cents a 8mg pill
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2020-01-18 at 7:44 PM UTCedited for privacy
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2020-01-18 at 7:59 PM UTC
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2020-01-18 at 8:53 PM UTCPeople who stock it are gonna get robbed so hard. I'd be paranoid buying from it.
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2020-01-18 at 9:17 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace People who stock it are gonna get robbed so hard. I'd be paranoid buying from it.
i imagine they have to have some sort of armed guard there. there will probably be like homeless encampments around it and people there buying and selling and trading other drugs and giftcards and food stamps. and i wonder how many pills it has in it? if people can steal atm machines they can probably steal one of those. if they got a lot of pills from it they could make a lot of money (or get really high).
they should just have one area of the town designated for drug selling and have vending machines for every drug there. to go there and get it you have to go through tons of sketchy people and shit living on the street that makes you second guess yourself so that only really dedicated people will go. -
2020-01-18 at 9:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by jonathan_davis_on_tweak_its_1994 i imagine they have to have some sort of armed guard there. there will probably be like homeless encampments around it and people there buying and selling and trading other drugs and giftcards and food stamps. and i wonder how many pills it has in it? if people can steal atm machines they can probably steal one of those. if they got a lot of pills from it they could make a lot of money (or get really high).
they should just have one area of the town designated for drug selling and have vending machines for every drug there. to go there and get it you have to go through tons of sketchy people and shit living on the street that makes you second guess yourself so that only really dedicated people will go.
I doubt it'll have an armed guard lol. Probably just a camera. I imagine its in front of a related clinic or something. -
2020-01-18 at 9:42 PM UTCidk but the price of dilaudid is gonna crash through the floor and i got my passport now
time to visit bigthinkingadzooks -
2020-01-18 at 10:06 PM UTCIve been saying i need a vacation
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2020-01-18 at 10:08 PM UTC
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2020-01-18 at 10:09 PM UTCIt's really weird to me that they choose diluadid for this though. They already offer injections (which is interesting because I've heard it has a great rush) and now they're selling these pills which almost certainly will be shot up anyway.
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2020-01-19 at 1:17 AM UTCI live in Vancouver. But I'm not an opiate addict.
Too little too late. Also it's only being given to registered junkies. Those guys aren't the ones who need this. The junkies on the streets always shoot up in public. When they OD, somebody revives them.
The people dying from the OD crisis are regular people in regular homes. They may not have the same tolerance as street junkies. And they use it in private. Fuck I've known too many who have died from OD here, including my own brother. -
2020-01-19 at 1:28 AM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace It's really weird to me that they choose diluadid for this though. They already offer injections (which is interesting because I've heard it has a great rush) and now they're selling these pills which almost certainly will be shot up anyway.
yeah I was thinking the same thing; if they're doing this to enable 'social stability' for their 'patients' then you'd think they'd go with something that doesn't encourage/require needle use -
2020-01-19 at 1:30 AM UTCits bullshit because they dont sell beers 24/7 for 32c ea
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2020-01-19 at 2:37 AM UTC
Originally posted by Splam I live in Vancouver. But I'm not an opiate addict.
Too little too late. Also it's only being given to registered junkies. Those guys aren't the ones who need this. The junkies on the streets always shoot up in public. When they OD, somebody revives them.
The people dying from the OD crisis are regular people in regular homes. They may not have the same tolerance as street junkies. And they use it in private. Fuck I've known too many who have died from OD here, including my own brother.
Lol this is a gross misrepresentation of opiate users. The vast majority are not homeless street junkies shooting up in public. Most people will go under a bridge, in the woods, to a trap house, friends house, dealers house, etc. Nobody likes shooting in public.
Or hey, maybe instead of finding a shit place to shoot, they go to a clinic to shoot up safely and get some free fresh needles and swabs and shit.
Maybe the 'house junkies' want to get clean so they seek out a clinic and try to get on a methadone program or some shit but keep failing. Maybe one drug test they pop for fentanyl. Then they get offered access to a machine
it's not black and white. Obviously if you don't try and get any help you won't have access to these resources and you won't get any help. But many, many, many people do, if only for the free needles and cookers. Shits expensive when you're addicted, and even if you can afford it, most people don't like having to face the cashier and ask for needles. You'll get judged hard. Maybe they'll refuse to sell them.
Any and all resources to help opiate addicts is good. Plus, we have objective evidence that this is helping to prevent deaths. Like I said, 30-40% reduction. -
2020-01-19 at 2:40 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra yeah I was thinking the same thing; if they're doing this to enable 'social stability' for their 'patients' then you'd think they'd go with something that doesn't encourage/require needle use
I mean, idk. Heroin programs work pretty well too. Turns out when you remove all the illegality, purity doubt, high cost of drug addiction, most people are able to get their shit together. So I guess it just catches the people who still wanna get high? I dunno. Maybe we're just used to Puritanical views on drugs and expect them to give addicts the least recreational shit possible. -
2020-01-19 at 3:21 AM UTCYeah sure, I agree it's definitely better than nothing, just that IV is inherently the riskiest ROA and there are probably better choices if their goal is harm reduction.
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2020-01-19 at 3:23 AM UTCwhy isnt there 24/7 beer machines tho with name brand for 32c ea no one can answer that huh
they dont even sell sodey pop that cheap anymore. dahurr im addicted to cola i need my fix and its 1.25 for a can !!!!! JEEEEEEERT ILL TURN TO ILLICIT MEANS -
2020-01-19 at 3:24 AM UTCThat's because of the stigma attached to being a BEER USER
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2020-01-19 at 3:25 AM UTCYeah, like you can cure a murderer by providing him the guns and knives. Idiots and morons run the world.
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2020-01-19 at 3:26 AM UTC
Originally posted by A College Professor why isnt there 24/7 beer machines tho with name brand for 32c ea no one can answer that huh
they dont even sell sodey pop that cheap anymore. dahurr im addicted to cola i need my fix and its 1.25 for a can !!!!! JEEEEEEERT ILL TURN TO ILLICIT MEANS
Nobody is putting fentanyl in your beer. -
2020-01-19 at 3:27 AM UTCThe idea behind this is to help heavy addicts stabilize their lives so they can get to a place where they don't feel that they need to shoot opiates every day, it's not really comparable