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Iraq - Major Escalation Underway (January 2020)
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2020-01-06 at 12:18 AM UTC
Originally posted by CASPER so your expert summary of events is that this changes nothing, and something may or may not happen?
No I'm stating he has no idea how to treat the information he is exposed to and is not very good at discussing it, and multiple times uses the wrong lens to look at things. -
2020-01-06 at 12:43 AM UTCHes pretty much just offering up information. Any of us whove been on the internet long enough, know that anything at this early stage is speculative. But what is known (unless iran and the us are collaborating in some kind of global psyop) is that the US killed someone, and a bunch of people in the ME are unhappy about it, and if nothing else, its going to make US operations in the region more difficult.
If you have any insider knowledge you wanted to drop thats any more specific, you could do so but youve chosen not to. -
2020-01-06 at 12:44 AM UTC
Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
Holy shit, did America really invite someone to negotiate, just to murder him when he came?
Apparently the US requested that Iraq act as an intermediary to Iran, so the Iraqi PM summoned Soleimani to pass on the requests made.
It's still possible that Soleimani was killed by accident but looking a whole lot less likely. -
2020-01-06 at 12:44 AM UTCGood watch. Very informative..
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2020-01-06 at 12:47 AM UTC
Originally posted by CASPER Hes pretty much just offering up information. Any of us whove been on the internet long enough, know that anything at this early stage is speculative. But what is known (unless iran and the us are collaborating in some kind of global psyop) is that the US killed someone, and a bunch of people in the ME are unhappy about it, and if nothing else, its going to make US operations in the region more difficult.
If you have any insider knowledge you wanted to drop thats any more specific, you could do so but youve chosen not to.
No he's not.
He's making predictions.
And his methodology is extremely faulty. -
2020-01-06 at 12:53 AM UTClol, Turnip threatening sanctions to cover cost of invasion now
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2020-01-06 at 1:02 AM UTC
Originally posted by too.dark.to.see They're a listed terrorist organisation. It's illegal to assist them.
Hezbollah was the Syrian government.
When Lebanon was occupied by Syria, Syria built up Hezbollah and allowed them military, political and social power and influence.
Hezbollah was never a legitimate Lebanese group. It was always Syria.
You are a fucking idiot. Are you trolling? Why do you state obvious falsehoods? Hezbollah has roots with Iranian Shiite clerics post revolution, not during the Syrian "occupation" (which was really just Hafiz throwing his hat into the ring with at least 6 other milita groups operating at the same scale). How many times have you walked in a Lebanese family home to see pictures of Hassan Nasrallah? I've seen several. Even Maronites have a great reverence for Hezbollah which they see as an instrument of Lebanese self determination. They were instrumental during the ceder revolution and have always been a thorn in the side of Israel. Yes, they have strong links to Iran and act at their behest, but the interests of Iran and Lebanon both align with getting the Jew away from their door. I don't know why tf you would say such falsehoods like they're an arm of Syria unless you're either trolling or very stupid and in over your head. Even during the Syrian war, Hezbollah has stayed on the eastern border of Lebanon/western border of southern Syria when they could have been working in tandem with the SAA and flanked during their taking back of the Damascus suburbs or Daraa.
Lebanon has always welcomed the influence of others with mutual goals as a trading hub or as a strategic point and nobody gives a fuck if Iran is exerting influence if it's to the benefit of the Lebanese people. Stop posting in this thread just to troll in weird and stupid waysThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2020-01-06 at 1:04 AM UTCReports that Iranian and IRGC missile corps have been placed on combat alert, so far not officially confirmed.
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2020-01-06 at 1:08 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo Even during the Syrian war, Hezbollah has stayed on the eastern border of Lebanon/western border of southern Syria when they could have been working in tandem with the SAA and flanked during their taking back of the Damascus suburbs or Daraa.
That was largely to stop israel shitting the bed for fear of them pushing south toward the occupied Golan and just not stopping. Which to be fair they might have, there were a lot of Hez commanders and units that seriously wanted to retake the Golan in the process -
2020-01-06 at 1:31 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo You are a fucking idiot. Are you trolling? Why do you state obvious falsehoods? Hezbollah has roots with Iranian Shiite clerics post revolution, not during the Syrian "occupation" (which was really just Hafiz throwing his hat into the ring with at least 6 other milita groups operating at the same scale). How many times have you walked in a Lebanese family home to see pictures of Hassan Nasrallah? I've seen several. Even Maronites have a great reverence for Hezbollah which they see as an instrument of Lebanese self determination. They were instrumental during the ceder revolution and have always been a thorn in the side of Israel. Yes, they have strong links to Iran and act at their behest, but the interests of Iran and Lebanon both align with getting the Jew away from their door. I don't know why tf you would say such falsehoods like they're an arm of Syria unless you're either trolling or very stupid and in over your head. Even during the Syrian war, Hezbollah has stayed on the eastern border of Lebanon/western border of southern Syria when they could have been working in tandem with the SAA and flanked during their taking back of the Damascus suburbs or Daraa.
Lebanon has always welcomed the influence of others with mutual goals as a trading hub or as a strategic point and nobody gives a fuck if Iran is exerting influence if it's to the benefit of the Lebanese people. Stop posting in this thread just to troll in weird and stupid ways
You're on public disinformation.
I'm on information from Hezbollah.
Think about this for a second.
Iran and Iraq were at war when Hezbollah was born and for many years after this. Wikipedia says it was armed and trained by Iran.
Look at a map.
To get from Iran to Lebanon, or Syria you have to go through Iraq.
It didn't happen.
I shouldn't be so kind to show you this though. -
2020-01-06 at 1:32 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra That was largely to stop israel shitting the bed for fear of them pushing south toward the occupied Golan and just not stopping. Which to be fair they might have, there were a lot of Hez commanders and units that seriously wanted to retake the Golan in the process
This is COMPLETELY wrong.
Can you please stop poisoning people's minds with this garbage. You act as an authority on the matter and you are not. You are self deluded and think you're knowledgeable and informed. -
2020-01-06 at 1:34 AM UTC
Originally posted by too.dark.to.see This is COMPLETELY wrong.
Can you please stop poisoning people's minds with this garbage. You act as an authority on the matter and you are not. You are self deluded and think you're knowledgeable and informed.
And yet you have not expounded on why he's "completely wrong". Go figure. -
2020-01-06 at 1:36 AM UTC
Originally posted by too.dark.to.see You're on public disinformation.
I'm on information from Hezbollah.
Think about this for a second.
Iran and Iraq were at war when Hezbollah was born and for many years after this. Wikipedia says it was armed and trained by Iran.
Look at a map.
To get from Iran to Lebanon, or Syria you have to go through Iraq.
It didn't happen.
I shouldn't be so kind to show you this though.
What the actual fuck? Stop posting your weird failb8 trolling, no one is this stupid. You're so weird and dumb you're quasi funny but mostly just awkward and unnecessary. Stop and go read a book or "look at a map" -
2020-01-06 at 1:36 AM UTC
Originally posted by too.dark.to.see You're on public disinformation.
I'm on information from Hezbollah.
Think about this for a second.
Iran and Iraq were at war when Hezbollah was born and for many years after this. Wikipedia says it was armed and trained by Iran.
Look at a map.
To get from Iran to Lebanon, or Syria you have to go through Iraq.
It didn't happen.
I shouldn't be so kind to show you this though.
Did you just quote Wikipedia? -
2020-01-06 at 1:38 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra Reports that Iranian and IRGC missile corps have been placed on combat alert, so far not officially confirmed.
Are you serious?
They are on 24/7 alert.
Can you please stop spreading poison.
You have no understanding of any of this. You are parroting disinformation designed to deceive the enemy and infiltrators.
You are very uninformed and clueless about this entire issue and you come here preaching like what you have is irrefutable fact from the horses mouth.
All you're doing is poisoning the minds of innocent people on NIS to believe a false narrative and false set of parameters surrounding issues in the middle east.
Please stop. You are not just an idiot and self deluded fool, you are trying to poison innocent people. -
2020-01-06 at 1:39 AM UTC
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2020-01-06 at 1:43 AM UTC
Originally posted by too.dark.to.see You're on Wikipedia. This is your source. You claim Hezbollah is Iranian in origin.
My source is a Hezbollah operative.
tell us about this "hezbollah operative." What does he tell you? Does he help you fight the "bad people" that are putting drugs in your tv dinners? Does he take risperidone too? -
2020-01-06 at 1:45 AM UTCIf you want to talk about the Hezbollah flag being reminiscent of the IRGC flag and therefore tied to the IRGC, I'm gonna tell you once and once only that is Syrian counter intelligence designed to interfere with public consciousness and electoral outcomes in trying to deliver political influence for Iran in to Lebanon as part of a Syrian-Iranian bloc.
And again you are relying on information secret groups (in this case Hezbollah) allow the public to see for deception and influence operations. -
2020-01-06 at 1:46 AM UTC
Originally posted by too.dark.to.see They're a listed terrorist organisation. It's illegal to assist them.
Hezbollah was the Syrian government.
When Lebanon was occupied by Syria, Syria built up Hezbollah and allowed them military, political and social power and influence.
Hezbollah was never a legitimate Lebanese group. It was always Syria.
Many european countries do not list hezbollah as terrorists.
Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Holy shit, did America really invite someone to negotiate, just to murder him when he came?
I've been looking at references on why he was in Iraq. Could've been fighting ISIS. Going to a funeral. Or to negotiate. In any case, anyone would be stupid to negotiate with the US. Especially now. Unless you have a deterrent like Kim Jong. But at the same time, if I were Kim Jong, I'd be weary of trusting Trump. At the same time I'd want to strike a deal so he doesn't assassinate me next. -
2020-01-06 at 1:46 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo tell us about this "hezbollah operative." What does he tell you? Does he help you fight the "bad people" that are putting drugs in your tv dinners? Does he take risperidone too?
This is none of your business.
You are wrong, you are hostile, you think you know this topic and you know absolutely nothing.
Proven just now.
