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2019-12-29 at 7:17 PM UTClol if you say so
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2019-12-29 at 7:19 PM UTC
Originally posted by Octavian It's almost as if you're shouting your bible thumping serial killer rheotoric across a room.
Lol I have thought this multiple times. It reminds me of when the church i went to as a kid got a priest from Ghana or something who was always screaming during mass.
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2019-12-29 at 7:21 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2019-12-29 at 7:30 PM UTC
Originally posted by iam_asiam68 i work with someone who goes 6 days a week to the methadone clinic, has to breathe for alcohol before they administer his dose.
his ole lady quit cold turkey and he was all proud of her.
on christmas day last year, her grandchildren found her laying by the christmas tree. when they rolled her over, her mouth was foaming. she OD'd on painkillers.
addiction is a nasty thing.
i have my friend over as much and we drink on Saturdays, cause the methadone clinics are closed on Sunday so no breath test.
he is 60 years old and cries because he cannot break free!!
but at least he no longer shoots up!!
he will survive because he has friends who care!!
I mean that’s cool you’re there for your friend. 1) It’s pretty dangerous to mix depressants and that could easily kill him 2)If he’s trying to rehabilitate from addiction, the goal should really be to not NEED any substances at all. I know the prevailing thought is that alcohol is a much “safer” drug than opiates, but it’s really not. Maybe have him come over and grill some steaks or shoot high caliber rifles. Head to breakfast and go to church the next morning. The goal should be to have him not need a crutch at all.
I used to think I was a good brother every time I’d take a friend out to the bar when a wife would leave them, or they’d lose a job or a family member would die. But really, I was just co-signing them dealing with life in some fucked up and destructive ways.
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2019-12-29 at 10:30 PM UTC
Originally posted by CASPER I mean that’s cool you’re there for your friend. 1) It’s pretty dangerous to mix depressants and that could easily kill him 2)If he’s trying to rehabilitate from addiction, the goal should really be to not NEED any substances at all. I know the prevailing thought is that alcohol is a much “safer” drug than opiates, but it’s really not. Maybe have him come over and grill some steaks or shoot high caliber rifles. Head to breakfast and go to church the next morning. The goal should be to have him not need a crutch at all.
I used to think I was a good brother every time I’d take a friend out to the bar when a wife would leave them, or they’d lose a job or a family member would die. But really, I was just co-signing them dealing with life in some fucked up and destructive ways.
Food for thought.
lol, yep!!
he is 60 years old, and we have fired his collection of rifles, pistols, semi-auto's, even his crossbow. he bought a new mustang for his need for speed. the dude is like myself, has the means to get whatever he wants. he wanted off heroine and he is now on methadone. it's interesting, cause every once in awhile, he just doses off, then wakes up like the alarm is on full blast (startled). he has (2) vodka's and red bull's and i have about 4 beers and the ole lady cooks us meals because it's what we pay him (he didn't want cash but home cooked meals) to help me around the farm.
so, i am not sure what 2 vodka's and red bulls mean to his overall sobriety.
but i do know he once asked me how i knew God was real. i told him of an incident that took place and then called my mother, who also witnessed same event, and when she told him basically word for word what i did, he said his urge to shoot up stopped. and still to this day, he does not have that urge.
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2019-12-30 at 12:12 AM UTCyeah the waking up like an alarm clock thing is the methadone. its called nodding. same thing that happens when youre high on heroin. he must be at a pretty high dose. Well even if you guys are drinking, im glad he has a friend. Addiction and isolation are really just like a bonfire and gasonline.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2019-12-30 at 12:44 AM UTC
Originally posted by iam_asiam68 lol, yep!!
he is 60 years old, and we have fired his collection of rifles, pistols, semi-auto's, even his crossbow. he bought a new mustang for his need for speed. the dude is like myself, has the means to get whatever he wants. he wanted off heroine and he is now on methadone. it's interesting, cause every once in awhile, he just doses off, then wakes up like the alarm is on full blast (startled). he has (2) vodka's and red bull's and i have about 4 beers and the ole lady cooks us meals because it's what we pay him (he didn't want cash but home cooked meals) to help me around the farm.
so, i am not sure what 2 vodka's and red bulls mean to his overall sobriety.
but i do know he once asked me how i knew God was real. i told him of an incident that took place and then called my mother, who also witnessed same event, and when she told him basically word for word what i did, he said his urge to shoot up stopped. and still to this day, he does not have that urge.
the goal now, however, is to get him off methadone.
You should start doing methadone with him. -
2019-12-30 at 4:32 AM UTCLol abusing old friends that still take drugs cause I'm a new man.
"Delete my number you filthy scum".
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2019-12-30 at 5:36 AM UTC
Originally posted by CASPER Bump for lack of sober threads
1 year and 28 days off heroin. Haven’t even had a drink in over a year and probably 8 months since I smoked weed.
Everything pretty much still the same. Or…idk. Everything feels the same but a lot of things are really different too. I talk to a lot more people. I’m able to be more honest. I do things I should do, even though I d9nt particular enjoy them. I’m able to go to dinner with family friends. And I think it’d been at least 10 years since the last time I took a picture with my mom.
So idk. Shits not perfect but nothing is. Not feeling the earth turning doesn’t mean it isn’t happening. Just gotta keep doin what I do, and be better in little ways each day.
That’s all. 🙂
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2019-12-30 at 5:44 AM UTCI ordered kosh because the guy is like shutting down partially and I need to cross it off my zokletlist and do it to honour sploo, he really really wanted me to try it. Also I had vouchers for 5 dollars of free swishers so like, what else am I gonna do with them???
Oh yeah, bought krek too. The good kind, not the horrible fenty shitty discount kind like last time that almost ruined it forever for me. I have a drug test coming up pretty soon here but I might have to delay it for legitimate reasons anyway so whatever. I'm sure I'll be fine. -
2019-12-30 at 5:46 AM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2019-12-30 at 5:53 AM UTCI feel like I should useful to add here. Don’t do meth? I’ve not been buying anything over a half zip these past 6 months or so. Sounds like a lot to taper off of but I can sell half of it in a matter of minutes and sometimes just leave myself only a ball or so but I feel buying anything less than a ball is just a waste period.
I hope you’re all doing well and if my some miracle I have something useful to add I will. Glad to see most of my favorite regs are still posting!The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-12-30 at 5:45 PM UTC
Originally posted by CASPER I mean our brain chemistry is kinda fucked, and will probably continue to be fucked for a few years following our cessation of all drugs. I think it has a lot to do with different experiences, different ch I also being released. We got used to a cycle of immediate gratification, immense pleasure response, burnout, repeat. Normal life isn’t like that. The truth is, normal life doesn’t have everyday super highs like that. It’s probably going to take a while for our brains to restrain themselves to trigger reward chemicals for doing the things that are actually healthy for us- ie socialization and career, outings, exercise.
Everyone’s been pretty supportive of me. I’m like 99% positive i COULD drink, but at this point I don’t really see much point. Alcohol just makes me kinda sloppy. I don’t get much more anxiolytics effect from alcohol than I would from taking part in any other number of things. It’s funny when I drink, I feel less anxiety and inhibition but only at a kind of surface level. After having started working the steps and learning to be honest with people, I feel like I’m able to create way more intimacy with people sober than I could drunk. I can certainly articulate myself better. And people have been cool. At a Christmas party the other night, someone suggested I pour us some drinks and I didn’t feel like having the talk so I just poured myself a glass and didn’t drink, no one noticed or said shit. It’s weird not having something in my hand to carry around and sip on, but even just to type that now makes me feel retarded. That feeling doesn’t make sense and I’m sure that’ll go away in time too. Just like how I used to feel weird without someth8ng to smoke at a party.
I don't really get anxiolysis from alcohol anymore beyond slop, and I get a whole heap of physical pain/thrown back into acute withdrawal for a day and a half. It's better this way, and now that I got rid of that last gross bottle of wine I'm back to abstaining out of want.
CASPER, how much meth are you down to? A little advice, you been kinda trippin about the last leg of it, and it's partly true but don't psych yourself out about it. I did ultra slow taper from xanax, although I was snowed from ultra high dose for years so it was warranted just like you, and things did fall apart really bad towards the end and I made the decision to speed it way up because I either had to do that or slow it way down because the current pace was gonna kill me. I 100% would do the same thing again even though I went buttfuck insane and was in horrible pain once I did that. Once it starts to really kick your ass at the end you really gotta imo get it over with instead of slowly torturing yourself. Although personally, opiate withdrawal is nowhere near as bad, so maybe it won't matter as much. -
2019-12-30 at 5:48 PM UTC
Originally posted by Octavian Thanks for sharing your recovery Casper. So what makes normal things not so much fun, cause the body's pleasure isn't peaking? This I find interesting cause it's something I've encountered when trying to quit drugs and alcohol. There always seems to be a void that needs filling but not satiated so to speak.
I do find however this gets easier over time. My worries are going on dates and if I'm not drinking, what's their perception going to be? Also will they less likely drink and be less relaxed as a result? All in all sobriety I have found to be enjoyable somewhat. I save a fuck load of money and feel natural highs which I would not normally feel. If anything, I find there to be a feeling of trepidation or nervousness when given the opportunity to be around friends who will, by no fault of their own, make me feel like drinking.
You've been doing great man, I'm really impressed with how well you've stuck it out this time. I honestly didn't think you would get there without treatment, but I do remember you admitting that you needed help and that kinda told me that you had hit bottom and were ready. Really proud.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-12-30 at 5:52 PM UTC
Originally posted by DietPiano You've been doing great man, I'm really impressed with how well you've stuck it out this time. I honestly didn't think you would get there without treatment, but I do remember you admitting that you needed help and that kinda told me that you had hit bottom and were ready. Really proud.
Hey thanks man that really means alot. -
2019-12-30 at 5:54 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo hardest for me is not using opes to copes with physical pain
Diddy.
The crazy thing is that almost immediately after I started Test my migraines got like 60% better, but I don't know exactly why. I started right after getting a 4th botox procedure as well as getting gab raised a little bit all at the same time, but I wonder if I legitimately had low T because 1.) opiates and 2.) low T can cause headaches/make them worse.
I wanna say it's just compounded effects from botox and gab, but it just never got THIS much better after any of the other 3. We shall soon see. -
2020-01-01 at 7:48 PM UTC
Originally posted by CASPER Bump for lack of sober threads
1 year and 28 days off heroin. Haven’t even had a drink in over a year and probably 8 months since I smoked weed.
Everything pretty much still the same. Or…idk. Everything feels the same but a lot of things are really different too. I talk to a lot more people. I’m able to be more honest. I do things I should do, even though I d9nt particular enjoy them. I’m able to go to dinner with family friends. And I think it’d been at least 10 years since the last time I took a picture with my mom.
So idk. Shits not perfect but nothing is. Not feeling the earth turning doesn’t mean it isn’t happening. Just gotta keep doin what I do, and be better in little ways each day.
That’s all. 🙂
This is good shit man. While this may sound silly in comparison, I’ve been trying to quit smoking weed but ending up with an empty feeling life then eventually justifying it to myself again. It’s annoying. but you’ve done great fam.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2020-01-01 at 8:02 PM UTC
Originally posted by WE SMOOTH This is good shit man. While this may sound silly in comparison, I’ve been trying to quit smoking weed but ending up with an empty feeling life then eventually justifying it to myself again. It’s annoying. but you’ve done great fam.
Ayyyyyyy. I was wondering where you were the other day. Thanks man, really. I wouldnt trip too hard. You dont have to be perfect right now. That doesnt mean you get a pass to just do whatever, but it means just keep in mind youre a better man than you were a few years ago. Its tough to quit things when theyre still serving a purpose. It took me 11 or 12 of those 13 years to want to quit, and it took getting to the point that it didnt work anymore for my brain to finally click. Sounds like youre making all the right moves though. Maybe try edibles or something for a while. The act of smoking something also reinforces addictive behaviors. Right before i stopped, i stopped smoking and started snorting fent. lol. It sorta works though.
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2020-01-02 at 4:53 AM UTCI'm going to try to stop drinking entirely. I got some kava and it seems to be good for getting rid of that anxious urge. I've used it in the past to not drink as much and it works well, but lately I've developed a horrible habit of drinking industrial amounts of vodka/whiskey. Just polished off a handle in about 2 days. It's not a good feeling. I wasn't even drinking for most of this year.
I'm usually good for weeks but then I get a bottle of liquor and clock out for a few days. I want to start smoking weed again but I feel like I'm just constantly replacing one crutch for another. Don't know if I'll ever be happy without some kind of substance. I guess it's better to keep to pussy shit like kava. Wish I could just be a responsible drinker but I don't think I can. Last week I used a BAC calculator to determine when I'd be back down to the legal limit. I've always been very strict about driving on substances. never drove with more than like, a beer or two in me. Shit was scary. I don't even drive if I haven't had enough sleep.
2020 will be better.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2020-01-02 at 4:58 AM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace I'm going to try to stop drinking entirely. I got some kava and it seems to be good for getting rid of that anxious urge. I've used it in the past to not drink as much and it works well, but lately I've developed a horrible habit of drinking industrial amounts of vodka/whiskey. Just polished off a handle in about 2 days. It's not a good feeling. I wasn't even drinking for most of this year.
I'm usually good for weeks but then I get a bottle of liquor and clock out for a few days. I want to start smoking weed again but I feel like I'm just constantly replacing one crutch for another. Don't know if I'll ever be happy without some kind of substance. I guess it's better to keep to pussy shit like kava. Wish I could just be a responsible drinker but I don't think I can. Last week I used a BAC calculator to determine when I'd be back down to the legal limit. I've always been very strict about driving on substances. never drove with more than like, a beer or two in me. Shit was scary. I don't even drive if I haven't had enough sleep.
2020 will be better.
are you substituting cocks in your ass with alcohol amd weed ?
