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2019-12-28 at 3:52 PM UTCThanks for sharing your recovery Casper. So what makes normal things not so much fun, cause the body's pleasure isn't peaking? This I find interesting cause it's something I've encountered when trying to quit drugs and alcohol. There always seems to be a void that needs filling but not satiated so to speak.
I do find however this gets easier over time. My worries are going on dates and if I'm not drinking, what's their perception going to be? Also will they less likely drink and be less relaxed as a result? All in all sobriety I have found to be enjoyable somewhat. I save a fuck load of money and feel natural highs which I would not normally feel. If anything, I find there to be a feeling of trepidation or nervousness when given the opportunity to be around friends who will, by no fault of their own, make me feel like drinking. -
2019-12-28 at 4:07 PM UTCI mean our brain chemistry is kinda fucked, and will probably continue to be fucked for a few years following our cessation of all drugs. I think it has a lot to do with different experiences, different ch I also being released. We got used to a cycle of immediate gratification, immense pleasure response, burnout, repeat. Normal life isn’t like that. The truth is, normal life doesn’t have everyday super highs like that. It’s probably going to take a while for our brains to restrain themselves to trigger reward chemicals for doing the things that are actually healthy for us- ie socialization and career, outings, exercise.
Everyone’s been pretty supportive of me. I’m like 99% positive i COULD drink, but at this point I don’t really see much point. Alcohol just makes me kinda sloppy. I don’t get much more anxiolytics effect from alcohol than I would from taking part in any other number of things. It’s funny when I drink, I feel less anxiety and inhibition but only at a kind of surface level. After having started working the steps and learning to be honest with people, I feel like I’m able to create way more intimacy with people sober than I could drunk. I can certainly articulate myself better. And people have been cool. At a Christmas party the other night, someone suggested I pour us some drinks and I didn’t feel like having the talk so I just poured myself a glass and didn’t drink, no one noticed or said shit. It’s weird not having something in my hand to carry around and sip on, but even just to type that now makes me feel retarded. That feeling doesn’t make sense and I’m sure that’ll go away in time too. Just like how I used to feel weird without someth8ng to smoke at a party. -
2019-12-28 at 4:15 PM UTCNot losing all inhibitions is a good thing. Being able to not make an ass of one's self, be articulate and respected throughout the night is a good thing. I would much prefer to be that person.
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2019-12-28 at 4:24 PM UTC
Originally posted by CASPER I mean our brain chemistry is kinda fucked, and will probably continue to be fucked for a few years following our cessation of all drugs. I think it has a lot to do with different experiences, different ch I also being released. We got used to a cycle of immediate gratification, immense pleasure response, burnout, repeat. Normal life isn’t like that. The truth is, normal life doesn’t have everyday super highs like that. It’s probably going to take a while for our brains to restrain themselves to trigger reward chemicals for doing the things that are actually healthy for us- ie socialization and career, outings, exercise.
Everyone’s been pretty supportive of me. I’m like 99% positive i COULD drink, but at this point I don’t really see much point. Alcohol just makes me kinda sloppy. I don’t get much more anxiolytics effect from alcohol than I would from taking part in any other number of things. It’s funny when I drink, I feel less anxiety and inhibition but only at a kind of surface level. After having started working the steps and learning to be honest with people, I feel like I’m able to create way more intimacy with people sober than I could drunk. I can certainly articulate myself better. And people have been cool. At a Christmas party the other night, someone suggested I pour us some drinks and I didn’t feel like having the talk so I just poured myself a glass and didn’t drink, no one noticed or said shit. It’s weird not having something in my hand to carry around and sip on, but even just to type that now makes me feel retarded. That feeling doesn’t make sense and I’m sure that’ll go away in time too. Just like how I used to feel weird without someth8ng to smoke at a party.
How do you think you'll do when you're off the methadone?
Took me a while but I haven't done Crouton in a while and I stopped vaping nicotine or smoking weed.
Going to try switching to kava and cut out drinking altogether. I regret every time I drink. -
2019-12-28 at 4:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by Octavian Not losing all inhibitions is a good thing. Being able to not make an ass of one's self, be articulate and respected throughout the night is a good thing. I would much prefer to be that person.
Yeah being sloppy fall over drunk was fun when I was 20 but now I th8nk it’s just make me self conscious and depressed. -
2019-12-28 at 4:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace How do you think you'll do when you're off the methadone?
Took me a while but I haven't done Crouton in a while and I stopped vaping nicotine or smoking weed.
Going to try switching to kava and cut out drinking altogether. I regret every time I drink.
I think I’ll be cool. I mean it might not be quite as easy, but I think I’ve laid a solid foundation. And I Sort of doubt 22mg a day is having any really profound mental effect. I was on methadone for a whole year while I was still using, and it never helped shit airside from the withdrawals. It look a lot of pieces falling into place to get my head where I am now. Also, I know there’s just no alternative. I was numbed a good deal but I was miserable. I wanted to cease to e it’s every single day f the last 10 years, and that’s kinda exactly what happened. I just stopped being me. If god forbid I did relapse, I’d just kill myself. I can’t imagine any greater shame than to put my mom and myself through that again. It’d honestly be more noble to eat a bullet.
Another big part is that I DID the drugs. I did the fuck out of them. They just didn’t work anymore. I didn’t feel less depressed or less anxious. Slightly less pain but I traded that for fucked up lugs and fucked in veins and throbbing pain in my cracked teeth. It just doesn’t fucking work. So even in y junkie brain, I can’t ferret out a single solitary reason why I would put myself through that fucking agony again.
Only thing I think I have honestly any chance of “relapsing” at is when it comes to making money. I loved that more than I loved heroin. The weight off my mind. The feeling of accomplishment. Being able to provide for people I cared about. That was way more intoxicating than any drug I’ve every done.
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2019-12-28 at 4:45 PM UTCI did suboxone and am no longer physically addicted to opiates just psychologically lol
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2019-12-28 at 4:47 PM UTCi Guess I’m still physically dependent, but I just took my dose for the first time since Thursday bc §m£ÂgØL mentioned it and I remembered. The mental asp3ct was always hardest for me.
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2019-12-28 at 4:49 PM UTChardest for me is not using opes to copes with physical pain
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2019-12-28 at 4:51 PM UTCI wish I had Jesus hair to compliment my growing beard and sobriety.
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2019-12-29 at 6:56 PM UTCa couple people i know turned to christianity to escape drugs and a self destructive lifestyle. it seems to have worked out well for them
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2019-12-29 at 7:10 PM UTCThink I'll just murder prostitutes, seems to be working for Lam.
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2019-12-29 at 7:11 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace How do you think you'll do when you're off the methadone?
Took me a while but I haven't done Crouton in a while and I stopped vaping nicotine or smoking weed.
Going to try switching to kava and cut out drinking altogether. I regret every time I drink.
i work with someone who goes 6 days a week to the methadone clinic, has to breathe for alcohol before they administer his dose.
his ole lady quit cold turkey and he was all proud of her.
on christmas day last year, her grandchildren found her laying by the christmas tree. when they rolled her over, her mouth was foaming. she OD'd on painkillers.
addiction is a nasty thing.
i have my friend over as much and we drink on Saturdays, cause the methadone clinics are closed on Sunday so no breath test.
he is 60 years old and cries because he cannot break free!!
but at least he no longer shoots up!!
he will survive because he has friends who care!! -
2019-12-29 at 7:15 PM UTC
Originally posted by iam_asiam68 i work with someone who goes 6 days a week to the methadone clinic, has to breathe for alcohol before they administer his dose.
his ole lady quit cold turkey and he was all proud of her.
on christmas day last year, her grandchildren found her laying by the christmas tree. when they rolled her over, her mouth was foaming. she OD'd on painkillers.
addiction is a nasty thing.
i have my friend over as much and we drink on Saturdays, cause the methadone clinics are closed on Sunday so no breath test.
he is 60 years old and cries because he cannot break free!!
but at least he no longer shoots up!!
he will survive because he has friends who care!!
lol by the christmas tree
LETS SEE WHAT SANTA BROUGHT US FOR CHRISTMASTHISYEA--A---AHHHHHHH
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2019-12-29 at 7:16 PM UTC
Originally posted by iam_asiam68 i work with someone who goes 6 days a week to the methadone clinic, has to breathe for alcohol before they administer his dose.
his ole lady quit cold turkey and he was all proud of her.
on christmas day last year, her grandchildren found her laying by the christmas tree. when they rolled her over, her mouth was foaming. she OD'd on painkillers.
addiction is a nasty thing.
i have my friend over as much and we drink on Saturdays, cause the methadone clinics are closed on Sunday so no breath test.
he is 60 years old and cries because he cannot break free!!
but at least he no longer shoots up!!
he will survive because he has friends who care!!
Why do most of your last sentences end with exclamation marks? It's almost as if you're shouting your bible thumping serial killer rheotoric across a room.
We get it, you were molested by a female. Leave us to lick orifice in peace.