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2017-01-22 at 12:13 AM UTCCite a source snab or it's bullshit.
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2017-01-22 at 12:18 AM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ Yes. That's what he meant, hence the term FINALLY. You are supposing to know what he was thinking when he said it, when the only context he gave was the Kennedy family.
the point of speaking and writing is so that other people know what you're thinking.
this is why words have specific definitions.
his mention of the kennedy's was poorly done as well.
he broke the agreed upon rules and definitions of language, and whatever it was that he was thinking, what he said was pretty garbled. he needs to improve upon that writing, and you need to spend some time in contemplation of exactly what the technique and goal of clarity in speech is.
finally was wrong, no matter what your opinion of trumps family, the kennedy's family, or any of the families in between was.
another level on which it was wrong that i have not mentioned, is that one does not use finally to con-notate the arrival of negative events. one doesn't say 'finally, i got cancer again!'. one does not even say that if one likes having cancer. hence the egregious wrongness of that sentence. -
2017-01-22 at 12:20 AM UTC
Originally posted by Merlin Cite a source snab or it's bullshit.
of fucking what?
i can't stand all these drooling retards who walk around saying 'source?' 'source?' 'source?'? in such a way that you just know they're fucking idiots.
why don't you just wear a shirt that says, 'i'm a cypher' so i don't confuse with someone that it would be constructive to have a discussion with. -
2017-01-22 at 12:21 AM UTC
Originally posted by snab_snib first of all, words have specific meanings.
True enoughsecond of all, we were discussing the definitions and syntax of words, not grammar.
Also truethird of all, i'm quite in the right here. in fact, the only reason you're pulling these pathetic little stunts is because you don't like me, for reasons which are frankly none of my business.
I do dislike the way you post but that doesn't change the fact that you are 100% wrong here and my motivation for telling you as much is that anyone who spends their time calling out other people's usage on the internet when they're flat out dead wrong about it deserves to be laughed at. -
2017-01-22 at 12:24 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny flat out dead wrong about it
did you think you were going to sneak that by me?
is the sentence 'finally, i have cancer again' a correct sentence?
no, it's not. not even if you like cancer. -
2017-01-22 at 12:25 AM UTC
Originally posted by snab_snib did you think you were going to sneak that by me?
is the sentence 'finally, i have cancer again' a correct sentence?
no, it's not. not even if you like cancer.
PS: the phrase "finally i have cancer again" can be correctly used at the end of a list of your woes: "listen, i am not a happy man. why? because my dog died, my wife left me, my kids hate me, i'm deep in debt, and finally, well, i have cancer again"
such would be correct, however that is not relevant to the present use-case scenario. -
2017-01-22 at 12:26 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny holy shit snab_snib, not only are you an up your ass grammar nazi but you can't even do that right. kystbhfam
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"This."The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-01-22 at 12:29 AM UTC
Originally posted by snab_snib PS: the phrase "finally i have cancer again" can be correctly used at the end of a list of your woes: "listen, i am not a happy man. why? because my dog died, my wife left me, my kids hate me, i'm deep in debt, and finally, well, i have cancer again"
such would be correct, however that is not relevant to the present use-case scenario.
Yes, it's a perfectly valid sentence. "again" or "another" doesn't imply, as you said earlier, unbroken continuity. -
2017-01-22 at 1:23 AM UTCmy example was a valid use of the finally-again phrase. it was a list. the sentence in question was not a list. it was just a badly written sentence.
i'm right about this, and you fucking know it. you don't say, 'we finally have a family again in the whitehouse without traditional family values'. ever. that's a wrong sentence. if you put that on any fucking MLA paper, your english teacher would deduct points. finally should not be included in it. if you don't grasp that, you don't just fail in your basic mechanics but in your taste and sense of style. it would make you a bad writer, as much as a wrong writer. -
2017-01-22 at 1:57 AM UTC
Originally posted by snab_snib my example was a valid use of the finally-again phrase. it was a list. the sentence in question was not a list. it was just a badly written sentence.
I don't know what example you're talking about but whatever it was, even if it was correct usage, does nothing to demonstrate any sort of issue with mmQ's sentence. So far the entirety of the reasons you've given for being a wrong pedantic shit come down to "another magically implies unbroken continuity" and "it was just a badly written sentence". You've made like 10 posts in this thread but have yet to actually articulate an issue with the post that offended you.i'm right about this, and you fucking know it.
No, actually, you're wrong about this but obviously you haven't realized that fact yet.You don't say, 'we finally have a family again in the whitehouse without traditional family values'. ever. that's a wrong sentence.
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2017-01-22 at 2:03 AM UTC
We finally have another family in the white house that doesn't represent traditional, nuclear family values.
yep. that's an incorrect sentence right there.
and no matter how much you try to make this about something else, it's not going to be, it's not, it never was.
Originally posted by Lanny No, actually, you're wrong about this but obviously you haven't realized that fact yet.
no. you're wrong. not only are you wrong, you are, as far as i can tell, always wrong, because you are a bent person. you are morally and intellectually bankrupt.
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2017-01-22 at 2:06 AM UTCHey snab_snip, can you spot the differences between these two sentences:
"we finally have a family again in the whitehouse without traditional family values"
"We finally have another family in the white house that doesn't represent traditional, nuclear family values.."
? It might be hard but I have faith in you and think you can do it. Now give it your best shot tiger.
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2017-01-22 at 2:06 AM UTC
Originally posted by snab_snib of fucking what?
i can't stand all these drooling retards who walk around saying 'source?' 'source?' 'source?'? in such a way that you just know they're fucking idiots.
why don't you just wear a shirt that says, 'i'm a cypher' so i don't confuse with someone that it would be constructive to have a discussion with.
MLA or GTFO -
2017-01-22 at 2:13 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny Hey snab_snip, can you spot the differences between these two sentences:
"we finally have a family again in the whitehouse without traditional family values"
"We finally have another family in the white house that doesn't represent traditional, nuclear family values.."
? It might be hard but I have faith in you and think you can do it. Now give it your best shot tiger.
there's no practical difference. family again / another family are interchangeable, and without family values / doesn't represent traditional family values are interchangeable.
this is a further example of your intent here merely to be stirring the shit, because this is beside the point.
they're both incorrect sentences.
get on topic, stay on topic, or do yourself a favor, and begin damage control procedures. -
2017-01-22 at 2:15 AM UTC
Originally posted by snab_snib there's no practical difference. family again / another family are interchangeable
Just not true.
"I have another family in China"
"I have a family again in China" -
2017-01-22 at 2:17 AM UTC
Originally posted by Merlin MLA or GTFO
Vigorous writing is concise. A sentence should contain no unnecessary words, a paragraph no unnecessary sentences, for the same reason that a drawing should have no unnecessary lines and a machine no unnecessary parts. This requires not that the writer make all his sentences short, or that he avoid all detail and treat his subjects only in outline, but that he make every word tell.
— "Elementary Principles of Composition", The Elements of Style
William Strunk (1918). The Elements of Style.
go ahead, turn in a paper with that fucked up sentence in it. -
2017-01-22 at 2:18 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny Just not true.
"I have another family in China"
"I have a family again in China"
you're dropping context. this is something that you do alot.
i am aware of this. -
2017-01-22 at 2:23 AM UTCAs the only native English speaker here, I'd like to say you're all retards.
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2017-01-22 at 2:25 AM UTC
Originally posted by reject As the only native English speaker here, I'd like to say you're all retards.
i am probably more native english speaking than you -
2017-01-22 at 2:26 AM UTC*goes off on one about how you can't be "more" native*
Fill in the rest of the argument in your head as you wish.
