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  1. #81
    kroz weak whyte, frothy cuck, and former twink
    I'm going to impeach §m£ÂgØL for being a hardcore faggot because he won't shut the fuck up ever
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  2. #82
    Skulltag Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by ORACLE It doesn't mean shit faggot. You haven't said shit about what such a change actually entail as opposed to the current situation, or that prosecuting Trump detracts in any significant capacity from any other important government efforts.

    This is 100% you being a pussy faggot with no actual argument, just your emotions.

    Lol, go to any major media outlet. Literally any single one. Here, I'll even show you on your favorite fake news outlet, CNN: https://edition.cnn.com/politics

    Now, count how many of those articles are Trump, and how many are literally anything else. That's right, Trump is taking an overwhelming amount of attention. And I have made a very, very specific example about why impeachment detracts us from everything else. Several, in fact. Here's one:

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-defiant-in-face-of-criticism-for-opposing-border-bill-while-decrying-conditions

    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/27/politics/ocasio-cortez-border-bill-slams-border-bill-cnntv/index.html

    https://www.democracynow.org/2019/6/26/house_progressives_vote_against_dhs_funding

    AOC literally just denies border security financing because Trump supports it. Which, unsurprisingly, results in deaths in deportation camps. There's literally infighting in the Democratic house right now, because some people dare to worry about something else than Trump. We're infighting, while we need to stand united against Trump if 2020 Democratic victory is going to be a reality.

    And second: Remember when Trump passed bill on immigration? Specifically that you can't use a middle-man country to immigrate in the US anymore? At that time, 99% of media covered Trump's plastic straws and sharpies, while the bill went mostly ignored and, in fact, passed.

    Originally posted by larrylegend8383 Lol the President being impeached is big news. Doesn't mean the world stops and nothing else happens bro bro.

    I'm not saying that absolutely everyone is entranced by Trump, but the majority certainly are. Refer to the examples above. "Orange man bad" resulted into the new Democratic party actively trying to dismantle border security. And when Trump passes a bill which makes it nearly impossible for immigrants from the most torn apart countries to come to the US legally, the bill is completely ignored by the media and the democratic side, to the point where it passes!

    How is that not the world stopping? The democrats have been on and on about Trump since 2016. It literally feels like we have frozen in purgatory, and nothing but Trump exists.
  3. #83
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by 6011UM Obama had 8 years of no scandal

    LOL
  4. #84
    ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by Skulltag Lol, go to any major media outlet. Literally any single one. Here, I'll even show you on your favorite fake news outlet, CNN: https://edition.cnn.com/politics

    Now, count how many of those articles are Trump, and how many are literally anything else. That's right, Trump is taking an overwhelming amount of attention. And I have made a very, very specific example about why impeachment detracts us from everything else. Several, in fact. Here's one:

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-defiant-in-face-of-criticism-for-opposing-border-bill-while-decrying-conditions

    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/27/politics/ocasio-cortez-border-bill-slams-border-bill-cnntv/index.html

    https://www.democracynow.org/2019/6/26/house_progressives_vote_against_dhs_funding

    AOC literally just denies border security financing because Trump supports it. Which, unsurprisingly, results in deaths in deportation camps. There's literally infighting in the Democratic house right now, because some people dare to worry about something else than Trump. We're infighting, while we need to stand united against Trump if 2020 Democratic victory is going to be a reality.

    And second: Remember when Trump passed bill on immigration? Specifically that you can't use a middle-man country to immigrate in the US anymore? At that time, 99% of media covered Trump's plastic straws and sharpies, while the bill went mostly ignored and, in fact, passed.

    Do you think the newspapers are the ones prosecuting Trump and passing laws and shit?

    Each post you make gets progressively more retarded bud.



    I'm not saying that absolutely everyone is entranced by Trump, but the majority certainly are. Refer to the examples above. "Orange man bad" resulted into the new Democratic party actively trying to dismantle border security. And when Trump passes a bill which makes it nearly impossible for immigrants from the most torn apart countries to come to the US legally, the bill is completely ignored by the media and the democratic side, to the point where it passes!

    How is that not the world stopping? The democrats have been on and on about Trump since 2016. It literally feels like we have frozen in purgatory, and nothing but Trump exists.

    You're the one saying it's somehow cutting into other shit, while being completely incapable of backing it up on any level. Not my fault you're utterly lacking in facts and are arguing from emotion.

    Democrats having different policy positions than what you think should happen isn't "the world stopping" you moron. You're literally saying they are doing the governance you're demanding, just not the way you want it.
  5. #85
    Skulltag Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by aldra LOL

    §m£ÂgØL's Latinx done kicked in.
  6. #86
    ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by aldra LOL

    What scandals did he personally have actually have that were remotely anything but standard political retardation? Birther shit? Barack HUSSEIN Obama the Muslim? You can disagree with his policies all you want, that's not the same as someone asking foreign nations to interfere with US elections.
  7. #87
    Skulltag Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by ORACLE Do you think the newspapers are the ones prosecuting Trump and passing laws and shit?

    Each post you make gets progressively more retarded bud.

    No, the media isn't, but what the media does, is making sure that other, more important issues, are never talked about or noticed by the people, which is the problem I'm pointing out with it.

    Originally posted by ORACLE You're the one saying it's somehow cutting into other shit, while being completely incapable of backing it up on any level. Not my fault you're utterly lacking in facts and are arguing from emotion.

    I've just backed it up, right there! Impeachment IS cutting into other shit. How else do you suppose Trump managed to pass that nonsense bill about immigration? Because all y'all dumbfucks were so concentrated on impeachment that nobody actually paused for a moment and thought "Hey, a new bill is going to make it impossible for war and political refugees to safely and legally come to America, we need to do something about this."

    Instead, the media and the Democratic candidates glanced over it, asked themselves "will it help impeach Trump?", came to a conclusion that no, it won't, and the bill got ignored! It's right fucking there you blind goatfucker. I'm the one drinking gin and you're the one drunk or something?
  8. #88
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by ORACLE that's not the same as someone asking foreign nations to interfere with US elections.

    that's a rather dishonest way to characterise it
  9. #89
    6011UM Tuskegee Airman
    Skimmed. Still not a single source. Fucking lol. Hardcore deflection going on in here.
  10. #90
    Skulltag Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by ORACLE What scandals did he personally have actually have that were remotely anything but standard political retardation? Birther shit? Barack HUSSEIN Obama the Muslim? You can disagree with his policies all you want, that's not the same as someone asking foreign nations to interfere with US elections.

    Murdering US citizens. Extremely harsh deportation camps (which are still blamed on Trump). And let's not forget how they "found bin laden but decided to just dump the body in the water before actually showing solid evidence of it".

    As for Russiagate ... The Mueller report proved you wrong. Trump didn't ask Russia to interfere. Deal with it.
  11. #91
    6011UM Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by aldra that's a rather dishonest way to characterise it

    Uh, no its not. That's explicitly what Trump did. He couldn't get an investigation going on his political rival in the US, so he asked a foreign government to do it or else he'd withdraw aid. Thats extortion and seeking election meddling.
  12. #92
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    "Aid" withdrawal was a completely separate matter.
  13. #93
    Skulltag Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by 6011UM Skimmed. Still not a single source. Fucking lol. Hardcore deflection going on in here.

    §m£ÂgØL you already got your ass kicked. Did you calm down enough to be destroyed once again? And you're ABSOLUTELY correct. Still not a single source perpetrating that the Republicans were allowed to the trial before calling out lack of Democrat transparency and still not a single source which backs up your claims that impeachment will in any shape or form solve the economics, foreign policy and other day to day issues the United States is facing.

    Rules for thee and not for me in full force, Latinx.

    Originally posted by 6011UM Uh, no its not. That's explicitly what Trump did. He couldn't get an investigation going on his political rival in the US, so he asked a foreign government to do it or else he'd withdraw aid. Thats extortion and seeking election meddling.

    Investigation into Biden's corruption. You're doing EXACTLY what I said you'd do. You're calling out Trump's corruption because it doesn't play in your favor, but you ignore Biden's corruption because it does. Biden himself admitted to his corruption. Biden himself admitted threatening Ukraine if they continued to investigate Burisma. Those aren't my words, they're Joe Biden's. Are you saying that only Trump's corruption needs to be investigated and everyone else should be as corrupt as they want?

    Rules for thee and not for me.

    The Latinx done kicked in.
  14. #94
    ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by Skulltag No, the media isn't, but what the media does, is making sure that other, more important issues, are never talked about or noticed by the people, which is the problem I'm pointing out with it.

    No you weren't you lying cunt faggot.

    You were saying that Trump's prosecution should be "put on the back burner" and that it's taking away from solving other problems. You are moving goalposts.

    Le librul medya biazz has nothing to do with anything being discussed. The people who are prosecuting Trump are also continuing to perform their duties, of which that is one, and are not writing these srticles. The media and how many articles they write about Trump is a total non
    n sequitur.



    I've just backed it up, right there! Impeachment IS cutting into other shit. How else do you suppose Trump managed to pass that nonsense bill about immigration? Because all y'all dumbfucks were so concentrated on impeachment that nobody actually paused for a moment and thought "Hey, a new bill is going to make it impossible for war and political refugees to safely and legally come to America, we need to do something about this."

    Instead, the media and the Democratic candidates glanced over it, asked themselves "will it help impeach Trump?", came to a conclusion that no, it won't, and the bill got ignored! It's right fucking there you blind goatfucker. I'm the one drinking gin and you're the one drunk or something?

    You haven't backed up shit faggot. Which bill are you talking about? Link and I'll shit on your face cunt.
  15. #95
    ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by aldra "Aid" withdrawal was a completely separate matter.

    Lol. Shut the fuck up Australasian faggot.
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  16. #96
    kroz weak whyte, frothy cuck, and former twink




    Originally posted by ORACLE Lol. Shut the fuck up Australasian faggot.

    uh oh..
  17. #97
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    allahu akhbar

    on a scale of 1 to LOL, how likely is it that the current Ukraine government will ever be able to repay any of its IMF debt?

  18. #98
    Skulltag Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by ORACLE No you weren't you lying cunt faggot.

    You were saying that Trump's prosecution should be "put on the back burner" and that it's taking away from solving other problems. You are moving goalposts.

    Le librul medya biazz has nothing to do with anything being discussed. The people who are prosecuting Trump are also continuing to perform their duties, of which that is one, and are not writing these srticles. The media and how many articles they write about Trump is a total non
    n sequitur.

    That is EXACTLY what I've been saying. Put on the back burner. The attention should be taken away from it and put into more important problems. You'll notice that I didn't say "It must be completely and firmly stopped and must not be investigated". You can't quote me saying that, because I didn't.

    But hey, with all the ad-hominem attacks, somehow, I'm not surprised that you can't actually counter my argument with anything but semantics.


    Originally posted by ORACLE You haven't backed up shit faggot. Which bill are you talking about? Link and I'll shit on your face cunt.

    https://www.vox.com/2019/10/9/20903541/trump-proclamation-legal-immigration-health-insurance

    https://www.npr.org/2019/07/16/742219734/amid-furor-over-racist-tweets-white-house-announces-immigration-bill?t=1573709652896

    And there you have it. Somehow I'm not surprised you've never heard of it. That's EXACTLY what I've been pointing out. You've never heard of this shit, because you're all about impeachment, 100% of the time.
  19. #99
    ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by Skulltag Murdering US citizens. Extremely harsh deportation camps (which are still blamed on Trump). And let's not forget how they "found bin laden but decided to just dump the body in the water before actually showing solid evidence of it".

    These are controversial policy decisions, not any more a "scandal" than any other. And shit I even disagree with them.

    As for Russiagate … The Mueller report proved you wrong. Trump didn't ask Russia to interfere. Deal with it.

    "We have plenty of indications of collusion but not enough to convict" = TOTAL VINDICATION of course.
  20. Skulltag Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by ORACLE These are controversial policy decisions, not any more a "scandal" than any other. And shit I even disagree with them.



    "We have plenty of indications of collusion but not enough to convict" = TOTAL VINDICATION of course.

    Again, if you paused in your ad-hominems for a bit and actually read, you'd know that I am NOT claiming Trump is completely innocent. I'm only obeying the most basic principle of law: innocent until proven guilty. I'm all for investigation, and if it can be conclusively proven that Trump indeed colluded with Russian, then by all means.

    I'm saying that because of concentrating on Trump, y'all neglect much more important and fundamental problems. Again, can you quote me, where I said that Trump is fully innocent and shouldn't be investigated? Show me where I have resoundingly said "Trump did no wrong and shouldn't be prosecuted" and I'll be the first one to admit my stupidity.

    But you can't quote that, because I've never said that in the first place. You're placing Republican talking points onto me, because that's what you want to see me as. But it's just not the truth. I'm a left leaning centrist and I will always be, no matter how hard you want me to be a Trump supporter.

    And yes, I also very firmly disagree on those policy decisions. They're inhumane at best. The point I'm driving home with that specific example is that each President is corrupt, at least to some degree. There's no escaping it. But the outrage about Trump is much more powerful than any other, while we should investigate and hold Trump accountable with cold, calm resolution and deliberation. Not mass hysteria.
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