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Did existence begin or is it eternal?

  1. Originally posted by frala Did numbers always exist or did we discover them and they were non existent before then? What are numbers? What is existence? WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

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    So basically God and numbers always existed and we just discovered them. Nobody created them. Which means existence always existed and has just been dangling about.

    GOD AND NUMBERS. BROOHAHA.
  2. Vitamin G African Astronaut
    I think I have lost brain cells from these last few posts.
  3. Pfft like you had any to begin with.
  4. Vitamin G African Astronaut
    Originally posted by frala Pfft like you had any to begin with.

    I had one.

    Now its gone.
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  5. Big League Jew Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny how do you think somethimg without a beginning is poasible ?

    Well the argument goes that each state of the universe is explained by the previous state of the universe, and this can go on forever with each cause being explained by the last. And the sum of the parts is equal to the whole so the whole package is "explained" internally without any first point.
  6. Big League Jew Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by iam_asiam68 in my field of Mathematics, my numbers and final project have to be so close to perfect (ZERO), we can literally take a human hair, split it 15 times and then split that. that means, i am one hair split 45 times to being perfect to zero (i shoot for 80 millionths as a tolerance).

    ^
    i said all of that because Steven Hawkings claimed if we were just MILLIONTHS Closer to the Sun or Further from the Sun, it would be impossible for Life to exist.
    ^
    that is splitting the ONE HAIR many times according to Hawkings.
    which means, WE ARE in the PRECISE PLACEMENT by GOD to sustain Life. that Precision is too accurate to be an accident, i know, i do that Mathematics all of the time!!

    so knowing the Universe and Mathematics are Precise, reveals a DESIGNER/CREATOR who can do things with the Precision to sustain LIFE!!

    therefore, the Creator/Designer does not need to begin, but needs to exist. the only thing required a Beginning is the Universe and Life!!

    I have never read a post that has ever been more wrong than this one.
  7. Vitamin G African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Big League jedi I have never read a post that has ever been more wrong than this one.

    IDK, have you seen his other posts?
  8. -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
  9. Originally posted by frala Did numbers always exist or did we discover them and they were non existent before then? What are numbers? What is existence? WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

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    Well nothingness could be quantified as a 0 or a 1 (nothing is a thing) or 2 (both at the same time) or some other quantation derived from this singular object upon itself, it seems like math would be eternal and time-independent, unlike the transformation between nothing to something itself
  10. Originally posted by iam_asiam68 in my field of Mathematics, my numbers and final project have to be so close to perfect (ZERO), we can literally take a human hair, split it 15 times and then split that. that means, i am one hair split 45 times to being perfect to zero (i shoot for 80 millionths as a tolerance).

    ^
    i said all of that because Steven Hawkings claimed if we were just MILLIONTHS Closer to the Sun or Further from the Sun, it would be impossible for Life to exist.
    ^
    that is splitting the ONE HAIR many times according to Hawkings.
    which means, WE ARE in the PRECISE PLACEMENT by GOD to sustain Life. that Precision is too accurate to be an accident, i know, i do that Mathematics all of the time!!

    so knowing the Universe and Mathematics are Precise, reveals a DESIGNER/CREATOR who can do things with the Precision to sustain LIFE!!

    therefore, the Creator/Designer does not need to begin, but needs to exist. the only thing required a Beginning is the Universe and Life!!



    perihelion, aphelion.

    also hawking cheated in his wife, hes a bad catholic. dont listen to him.
  11. existence began AND it is eternal, dumbfuck

    What a stupid fucking question, how dumb do you have to be

    idiot
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  12. Big League Jew Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by DietPiano existence began AND it is eternal, dumbfuck

    What a stupid fucking question, how dumb do you have to be

    idiot

    By definition something eternal didn't begin.
  13. Obbe Alan What? [annoy my right-angled speediness]
    Maybe it's enternal with certain events we could call beginnings and endings.
  14. iam_asiam68 African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Big League jedi I have never read a post that has ever been more wrong than this one.




    actually, i have read enough to understand you wouldn't get a clue if it walked up and smacked you. the fact i probably make at least 150,000 grand more than you do per year would clarify if i am wrong or not!!

    get a "real" job and "a" clue!!
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  15. iam_asiam68 African Astronaut
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny

    perihelion, aphelion.

    also hawking cheated in his wife, hes a bad catholic. dont listen to him.



    he was a vegetable confined to a wheelchair. i doubt he ever consummated his own marriage let alone cheat. you just go ahead and run along and jump off the tallest building head first and do your inner circle a favor by perma checking out :)
  16. iam_asiam68 African Astronaut
    2 constants

    1. we know by Science and God this Universe had a BEGINNING. therefore, we know the Universe cannot be eternal.

    2. God

    what do we actually know about God:
    He claims to be the First and the Last, the beta and Omega, the Beginning and the End, and He holds ALL THINGS in His realm.
    He claims to be Creator of Everything.
    and He speaks about the Universe, how He spoke it into existence, how He placed His Laws (Laws of Physics or Laws of Mathematics) into effect, and how He is sustaining Life and All Things by His Will/Power.
    ^
    (plus it's nice to know Ancient Historians claim JESUS (Yeshua) was a real person, claimed to be God, was brutally beaten/murdered, Buried, and 3 A-T-H-E-I-S-T Ancient Greek Historians wrote for MONTHS He was seen walking, talking, and doing as He did BEFORE being Murdered and Buried and then finally Ascending)


    so if the Greeks are correct about Yeshua being Yah, which helps my 2 Constants, then we know that GOD is Eternal and His Creations are not(with one exception the SOUL)!!
  17. Originally posted by Big League jedi By definition something eternal didn't begin.

    That's retarded
  18. Big League Jew Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by iam_asiam68 i probably make at least 150,000 grand more than you do per year

    Lolno. The fact that the number you used was 150k means you probably only make ~200K/y :)
  19. iam_asiam68 African Astronaut
    Originally posted by Big League jedi Lolno. The fact that the number you used was 150k means you probably only make ~200K/y :)

    as an R&D Engineer i get monthly bonuses that i have not added. in fact, i typically take those bonuses immediately to my accountant to figure out how to minimize the taxes on my base salary :)

    so, keep guessing big league joo
  20. Big League Jew Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by iam_asiam68 as an R&D Engineer i get monthly bonuses that i have not added. in fact, i typically take those bonuses immediately to my accountant to figure out how to minimize the taxes on my base salary :)

    so, keep guessing big league joo

    Then why didn't you include that in the first place? What do you make, 300K lil man? Better start stretching out the piggy bank :)
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