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2019-09-27 at 6:16 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny not really.
only a few cultures ever thought importing nigger farm equipmemt was a good idea and only one had taken the idea to new heights.
americans.
americans have been lazy since the time of their founding fathers.
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2019-09-27 at 6:26 PM UTC
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2019-09-27 at 6:35 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Sounds like more than trump is gonna go down for this.
Barr, giuliani, and possibly pence were involved in the cover up. How sweet. I think we’ve only seen the tip of the iceberg. Shits gonna get real😁
Have you read the whistleblower report? Have you read the unredacted transcript? Rhetorical questions both. No, obviously you haven't. All you have done is let talking heads tell you what is going on. That my dear is why you are such a dumb cunt.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-09-27 at 6:44 PM UTC
Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke Slavery was a globally ubiquitous institution since the beginning of time, not remotely a uniquely American phenomenon.
no. only a few culture ever adopted slavery and even fewer had adopted it on an industrial scale.
even fewer culture used slaves of a different race as a replacement for their own peasant class. now thanks to this white americans will eventually be replaced.
with immitation, anodized spare parts.
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2019-09-27 at 6:44 PM UTC
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2019-09-27 at 6:59 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker Have you read the whistleblower report? Have you read the unredacted transcript? Rhetorical questions both. No, obviously you haven't. All you have done is let talking heads tell you what is going on. That my dear is why you are such a dumb cunt.
Oh, you called me dear. You really do love me💞The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-09-27 at 7:16 PM UTC
Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke Slavery was a globally ubiquitous institution since the beginning of time, not remotely a uniquely American phenomenon.
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny no. only a few culture ever adopted slavery and even fewer had adopted it on an industrial scale.
even fewer culture used slaves of a different race as a replacement for their own peasant class. now thanks to this white americans will eventually be replaced.
with immitation, anodized spare parts.
go get replaced.
RNJ is right and you are a verified dumb cunt.HISTORY OF SLAVERY
An evil of civilization
Slavery enters human history with civilization. Hunter-gatherers and primitive farmers have no use for a slave. They collect or grow just enough food for themselves. One more pair of hands is one more mouth. There is no economic advantage in owning another human being.
Once people gather in towns and cities, a surplus of food created in the countryside (often now on large estates) makes possible a wide range of crafts in the town. On a large farm or in a workshop there is real benefit in a reliable source of cheap labour, costing no more than the minimum of food and lodging. These are the conditions for slavery. Every ancient civilization uses slaves. And it proves easy to acquire them.
War is the main source of supply, and wars are frequent and brutal in early civilizations. When a town falls to a hostile army, it is normal to take into slavery those inhabitants who will make useful workers and to kill the rest.
There are several other ways in which slaves are acquired. Pirates offer their captives for sale. A criminal may be sentenced to slavery. An unpayable debt can bring the end of liberty. The impoverished sell their own children. And the children of slaves are themselves slaves - though with a cheap supply of labour available through war, not many owners will allow their slaves the diversion of raising a family.
Slaves in Babylon: 18th century BC
Information about slaves in early societies relates mainly to their legal status, which is essentially that of an object - part of the owner's valuable property. The Code of Hammurabi, from Babylon in the 18th century BC, gives chilling details of the different Rewards and penalties for surgeons operating on free men or slaves. But it also reveals that the system is not one of unmitigated brutality. Surprisingly, Babylonian slaves are themselves allowed to own property. But the first civilization in which we know a great deal about the role of slaves is that of ancient Greece.
Slaves in Greece: from the 7th century BC
Both the leading states of Greece - Sparta and Athens - depend entirely upon forced labour, though the system in Sparta is more properly described as serfdom rather than slavery. The distinction is that the helots of Sparta are a conquered people, living on their own hereditary land but forced to work it for their Spartan masters. Their existence is a traditional rural one to which certain rights remain attached. The slaves of Athens, by contrast, have no conventional rights. But their condition varies greatly according to the work they do.
The most unfortunate Athenian slaves are the miners, who are driven often to the point of death by their owners (the mines are state-owned but are leased to private managers). By contrast other categories of slaves - particularly those owned directly by the state, such as the 300 Scythian archers who provide the police force of Athens - can acquire a certain prestige.
The majority of Athenian slaves are domestic servants. Their fortune depends entirely on the relationship they develop with their owners. Often it is close, with female slaves looking after the children or acting as concubines, or a male slave running the household as a steward.
No free Athenian works in a domestic capacity, for it is considered shameful to be another man's servant. This inhibition applies equally to a subsidiary position in any form of business. As a result male slaves in Athens do all work of a secretarial or managerial nature, for in these contexts they are unmistakably somebody else's personal assistant. Such jobs include positions of influence in fields such as banking and commerce.
Slaves in Rome: from the second century BC
The same loophole, offered by the self-esteem of free citizens, provides even greater opportunities to slaves in imperial Rome. The most privileged slaves are the secretarial staff of the emperor.
But these are the exception. In the two centuries before the beginning of the empire (the last two centuries BC) slaves are employed by Romans more widely than ever before and probably with greater brutality. In the mines they are whipped into continuing effort by overseers; in the fields they work in chain gangs; in the public arenas they are forced to engage in terrifying combat as gladiators. There are several slave uprisings in these two centuries, the most famous of them led by Spartacus.
Slaves in the Middle Ages: 6th - 15th century
In the period after the collapse of the Roman empire in the west, slavery continues in the countries around the Mediterranean. But the slaves are employed almost exclusively in households, offices and armies. The gang slavery characteristic of large Roman estates does not reappear until the tobacco and cotton plantations of colonial America (one notable exception is the salt mines of the Sahara). Nevertheless the slave trade thrives, and the Mediterranean is a natural focal point.
More than anywhere else, the Mediterranean provides the geographical and economic environment to encourage a slave trade. Civilized regions surround the central sea. To the north and south stretch vast areas populated by relatively unsophisticated tribes. Border warfare results in tribal captives being enslaved. In addition to this, market forces encourage the tribes to seize prisoners of their own to service a developing slave trade.
During the eastward expansion of the Germans in the 10th century so many Slavs are captured that their racial name becomes the generic term for a 'slave'. At the same period the delivery of slaves to the Black Sea region is an important part of the early economy of Russia.
South of the Mediterranean, the dynasties of Arabs along the coast stimulate an African slave trade. The town of Zawila develops in the Sahara in about700 specifically as a trading station for slaves. Captured in the region around Lake Chad, they are sold to Arab households in a Muslim world which by the 8th century stretches from Spain to Persia.
Slavery is an accepted part of life in Arabia during the time of Muhammad, in the 7th century, and the Qur'an offers no arguments against the practice. It merely states, particularly in relation to female slaves, that they must be well treated. In general that has been the case, compared with the barbaric treatment of slaves in some Christian communities.
The Christian Gospels make no specific mention of slavery, though slaves may be expected to benefit from the general bias in favour of the poor and the oppressed. During the early Middle Ages the missionaries and bishops of the Roman Catholic church argue against the ownership of slaves in the emerging dynasties of northern Europe. At first they make little headway. But gradually slavery disappears in western European countries - largely replaced by the serfdom of the feudal manor. But a new and disastrous chapter in the story of slavery begins with the arrival of the Portuguese in west Africa in the 15th century.
Meanwhile the Muslim habit of using slaves in the army has led to one unusual result - in itself an indication of the trust accorded to slaves in Middle Eastern communities. In 1250 the slave leaders of the Egyptian army, known as Mamelukes, depose the sultan and seize power. A succession of rulers from their own ranks control much of the Middle East, as the Mameluke dynasty, for nearly three centuries.
The Portuguese slave trade: 15th - 17th century
The Portuguese expeditions of the 15th century bring European ships for the first time into regular contact with sub-Saharan Africa. This region has long been the source of slaves for the route through the Sahara to the Mediterranean. The arrival of the Portuguese opens up another channel.
Nature even provides a new collection point for this human cargo. The volcanic Cape Verde Islands, with their rocky and forbidding coastlines, are uninhabited. But they contain lush tropical valleys. And they are well placed on the sea routes between West Africa, Europe and America.
Portuguese settlers move into the Cape Verde islands in about 1460. In 1466 they are given an economic advantage which guarantees their prosperity. They are granted a monopoly of a new slave trade. On the coast of Guinea the Portuguese are now setting up trading stations to buy captive Africans.
Some of these slaves are used to work the settlers' estates in the Cape Verde islands. Others are sent north for sale in Madeira, or in Portugal and Spain - where Seville now becomes an important market. Africans have been imported by this sea route into Europe since at least 1444, when one of Henry the Navigator's expeditions returns with slaves exchanged for Moorish prisoners.
The labour of the slaves in the Cape Verde Islands primes a profitable trade with the African region which becomes known as Portuguese Guinea or the Slave Coast. The slaves work in the Cape Verde plantations, growing cotton and indigo in the fertile valleys. They are also employed in weaving and dying factories, where these commodities are transformed into cloth. The cloth is exchanged in Guinea for slaves. And the slaves are sold for cash to the slaving ships which pay regular visits to the Cape Verde Islands.
This African trade, together with the prosperity of the Cape Verde Islands, expands greatly with the development of labour-intensive plantations growing sugar, cotton and tobacco in the Caribbean and America. The Portuguese enforce a monopoly of the transport of African slaves to their own colony of Brazil. But other nations with transatlantic interests soon become the main visitors to the Slave Coast. By the 18th century the majority of the ships carrying out this appalling commerce are British. They waste no part of their journey, having evolved the procedure known as the triangular trade.
Triangular trade: 18th century
The triangular trade has an economic elegance most attractive to the owners of the slave ships. Each of the three separate journeys making up an expedition is profitable in its own right, with only the 'middle voyage' across the Atlantic involving slaves as cargo.
Ships depart from Liverpool or Bristol with items in demand in west Africa - these include firearms, alcohol (particularly rum), cotton goods, metal trinkets and beads. The goods are eagerly awaited by traders in ports around the Gulf of Guinea. These traders have slaves on offer, captured in the African interior and now awaiting transport to America.
With the first exchange of merchandise completed, the slaves are packed into the vessels in appalling conditions for the Atlantic crossing. They are crammed below decks, shackled, badly fed and terrified. It is estimated that as many as twelve million Africans are embarked on this journey during the course of the Atlantic slave trade, and that one in six dies before reaching the West Indies - where the main slave markets on the American side of the ocean are located.
The most valuable product of the West Indies, molasses extracted from sugar cane, is purchased for the last leg of the triangle. Back in England the molasses can be transformed into rum. And so it goes on.
The abolitionist movement: 1688-1808
The horrors of the slave trade do not go unnoticed in England, however hard the traders try to justify their activities (even, preposterously, proclaiming the care and consideration which they show to their precious cargo).
The first sharp prick to the public's conscience comes in 1688 with the publication of Aphra Behn's novel Oroonoko (about the sufferings of an African prince and his loved one, transported by the English to slavery in Surinam). By this time the Quakers are already prominent in their condemnation of this inhuman trade, with the society's founder, George Fox, speaking strongly against it. In 1772 there is a landmark case when Lord Mansfield frees James Somerset, belonging to an American master, on the grounds that he has set foot in England.
Shortly afterwards, at the time of the American colonies' fight for independence, the Quakers again give a lead. The clamour for freedom, expressed so powerfully in the Declaration of Independence, can be seen as inconsistent in a population with a large African-American minority which is not in any sense free. The issue is starkly shown when the British troops fire on patriots in the Boston massacre of 1770; the first man to fall in this demonstration for freedom is a slave, Crispus Attucks.
In 1774 Quakers in Britain decide to expel any member involved in the slave trade. In the same year Quakers in Pennsylvania sets up the first abolitionist society, and in 1776 the Pennsylvania Quakers free their own slaves. The first state to abolish slavery is Massachussetts, in its new constitution of 1780. Other northern states follow suit during the next few years.
But the southern states are determined to retain slavery, which is claimed to be an economic necessity (this rift becomes evident in the constitutional convention in Philadelphia). As a result the abolitionists concentrate their efforts on abolishing the trade in slaves, assuming that this will have the gradual effect of ending slavery itself.
A book of 1786 by Thomas Clarkson (Essay on the Slavery and Commerce of the Human Species) is followed by the foundation in London in 1787 of the Society for the Abolition of the Slave Trade, with Quakers again predominant. William Wilberforce emerges as the champion of the cause in parliament.
By a coincidence the slave trade is declared illegal on both sides of the Atlantic in 1807. In America the constitutional congress has agreed in 1787, under pressure from the southern states, that no law on slavery will be passed for twenty years. As soon as the agreed time is up, legislation is enacted - outlawing the slave trade from 1 January 1808. Meanwhile in London in 1807 parliament prohibits the carrying of slaves in any British ship and the import of slaves into any British colony. These prove hollow victories. Enough children are now being born into slavery to work the plantations, even in the rapidly expanding cotton economy of the southern states. The new cause must be the abolition of slavery itself.
The political issue of slavery: 1819-1850
Slavery has been a major area of disagreement between the northern and southern states ever since the first compromise is achieved on the issue at the constitutional convention of 1787. It becomes a particularly hot political issue in 1819 during congressional debates on the application of Missouri for statehood. Settled largely from neighbouring Kentucky, Missouri contains many slaves on the plantations. In 1819 a New York congressman, James Tallmadge, proposes an amendment to the Missouri bill to the effect that no further slaves shall be brought into the state and that children of existing slaves shall be freed at the age of twenty-five.
The house of representatives, with a preponderance of congressmen from the more populous north, passes the Tallmadge amendment. In the senate, where eleven southern and eleven northern states have two senators each, the amendment fails to win a majority. It is an issue of great importance since the two new senators of a 'free' or a 'slave' state will tip the existing balance one way or the other.
The impasse is broken by another in the series of practical compromises on this contentious issue. It is agreed in 1820 that the district of Maine will be separated from Massachusetts to become an independent free state, the 23rd in the union. Missouri, with its slaves, follows in 1821 as the 24th. The balance is kept in the senate.
The Missouri Compromise, as the measures of 1820 become known, includes one other clause passed separately by congress. This legislates in advance for the territory beyond Missouri, stating that no more slave states shall be admitted to the union north of latitude 36.30 (the continuation of the southern boundary of Missouri). The compromise holds good for the next thirty years, during which an equal number of new slave and free states enter the union (Arkansas, Florida and Texas in the south, Michigan, Iowa and Wisconsin in the north). But in 1849 the issue returns. California applies to join the union as a free state. For the first time since 1820 the southern states are in danger of being outvoted in the senate.
This time the compromise patched together is more complex, consisting of five separate agreements passed during 1850. Concessions to the north include the key issue of Californian admission to the union as a free state; and the banning of the slave trade (but not slavery itself) in the nation's capital city, Washington, and the surrounding district of Columbia.
Concessions to the south are the promise that when New Mexico and Utah are ready for statehood, they may enter the union either with or without slavery; the federal payment of $10 million dollars of Texan debt; and new and more stringent Fugitive Slave Laws.
The Fugitive Slave Laws, passed in 1793, have been a continuing cause of local friction. They allow southern slave owners to reclaim escaped slaves found in northern states. Northern magistrates have often made a policy of deliberately frustrating the slave owners' legal rights in this respect. The Fugitive Slave Laws of 1850 attempt to prevent this (though in practice they have the opposite effect, prompting northern states to pass new laws safeguarding liberty). It is believed by many that the Compromise of 1850 will resolve the thorny issue. It does nothing of the kind. Within four years the question of Kansas escalates the crisis.
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2019-09-27 at 7:20 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny no. only a few culture ever adopted slavery and even fewer had adopted it on an industrial scale.
even fewer culture used slaves of a different race as a replacement for their own peasant class. now thanks to this white americans will eventually be replaced.
with immitation, anodized spare parts.
go get replaced.
You are retarded. Nearly every significant culture in the world had slavery at some point, it's just that very few could afford to practice it.
Shit unless you want to be obtusely rigid on the definition, modern China has factories installing nets to stop niggas from backflipping off factory roofs to escape their pointless hellish pantomime of a life because they are barely able to afford to live beyond subsistence, and thousands of Uyghurs are engaged in forced labour. And they only outlawed it in (googles) 1909.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-09-27 at 7:26 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker RNJ is right and you are a verified dumb cunt.
http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?historyid=ac41
babylon, grease, and rome. thats 3.
oh, and :In the period after the collapse of the Roman empire in the west, slavery continues in the countries around the Mediterranean. But the slaves are employed almost exclusively in households, offices and armies. The gang slavery characteristic of large Roman estates does not reappear until the tobacco and cotton plantations of colonial America
pls go suicide. -
2019-09-27 at 7:30 PM UTC
Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke You are retarded. Nearly every significant culture in the world had slavery at some point, it's just that very few could afford to practice it.
Shit unless you want to be obtusely rigid on the definition, modern China has factories installing nets to stop niggas from backflipping off factory roofs to escape their pointless hellish pantomime of a life because they are barely able to afford to live beyond subsistence, and thousands of Uyghurs are engaged in forced labour. And they only outlawed it in (googles) 1909.
Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke You are retarded. Nearly every significant culture in the world had slavery at some point, it's just that very few could afford to practice it.
couldnt afford to practice something free.Shit unless you want to be obtusely rigid on the definition, modern China has factories installing nets to stop niggas from backflipping off factory roofs to escape their pointless hellish pantomime of a life because they are barely able to afford to live beyond subsistence, and thousands of Uyghurs are engaged in forced labour. And they only outlawed it in (googles) 1909.
i know you prefer to be extra loose with definitions.
and more.
but we're talking of nigger-tier slavery here. -
2019-09-27 at 7:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke You are retarded. Nearly every significant culture in the world had slavery at some point, it's just that very few could afford to practice it.
make up your mind :
every significant culture or few.
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2019-09-27 at 7:37 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny
babylon, grease, and rome. thats 3.
oh, and :
pls go suicide.During the early Middle Ages the missionaries and bishops of the Roman Catholic church argue against the ownership of slaves in the emerging dynasties of northern Europe.
You are a dumb cunt. Every significant society in history has had slaves since the dawn of the agriculture age including your precious shit hole China. The largest land Empire in history, the Mongolian Empire practiced slavery. -
2019-09-27 at 7:38 PM UTCIt's pretty fucking sad that we don't have slaves.
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2019-09-27 at 7:39 PM UTC
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2019-09-27 at 7:40 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny
couldnt afford to practice something free.
Nothing is free. Slaves were valuable and required upkeep.i know you prefer to be extra loose with definitions.
and more.
but we're talking of nigger-tier slavery here.
I'd argue (China backed) North Korean labour camps are even worse.
And
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2019-09-27 at 7:41 PM UTC
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2019-09-27 at 7:42 PM UTC
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2019-09-27 at 7:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny make up your mind :
every significant culture or few.
or are you saying that there're only a few significant cultures existed.
Let's say, practically anybody who's alive today is descended from a society that had slaves.
I only don't make an absolute statement because we don't know every society that existed, and I'm sure you can find small cases of particular societies that didn't practice slavery, but pretty much nobody outlawed it until relatively recently.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2019-09-27 at 7:44 PM UTC
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