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2019-09-12 at 4:41 AM UTC
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2019-09-12 at 4:42 AM UTCacross your dead dog
fuck the ATF -
2019-09-12 at 4:44 AM UTC
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2019-09-12 at 4:58 AM UTC
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2019-09-12 at 4:59 AM UTC
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2019-09-12 at 11:10 AM UTCThe problem with vapes is that people aren't dying in decades like cigarettes, healthy people are dying in months.
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2019-09-12 at 11:11 AM UTCAnd yeah, "vaping is safe" is getting kids to try it, and fruity flavours are getting kids to buy them for fun.
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2019-09-12 at 11:16 AM UTCall drugs including alcohol and tobacco should be permanently banned
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2019-09-12 at 12:05 PM UTC
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2019-09-12 at 12:21 PM UTC
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2019-09-12 at 12:45 PM UTCthey are for men that choose their destiny. You let people choose your destiny for you. You rule-following loser thats why you will always be a nobody
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2019-09-12 at 12:51 PM UTC
Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke The problem with vapes is that people aren't dying in decades like cigarettes, healthy people are dying in months.
Lmao.
Total of 6 recorded deaths. Ever.
People die/suffer from respiratory infection due to cigarettes all the time... Which is what this is. Hydro multiple times has gotten pneumonia from smoking. Her father was a smoker and died from it at 50.
Non smokers and vapers dont suffer from that. Not that the government literally ever cared about what is bad for you. Read my post and you'll see what its really about. -
2019-09-12 at 1:13 PM UTC
Originally posted by G4LM Lmao.
Total of 6 recorded deaths. Ever.
People die/suffer from respiratory infection due to cigarettes all the time… Which is what this is. Hydro multiple times has gotten pneumonia from smoking. Her father was a smoker and died from it at 50.
Non smokers and vapers dont suffer from that. Not that the government literally ever cared about what is bad for you. Read my post and you'll see what its really about.
Right. 6. And we don't actually know why those 6 died. You're claiming to know but AFAIK nobody has actually found a common cause so far. We have guesses but that's it. -
2019-09-12 at 1:33 PM UTC
Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke Right. 6. And we don't actually know why those 6 died. You're claiming to know but AFAIK nobody has actually found a common cause so far. We have guesses but that's it.
Lol what? Yeah we do. 6 deaths and 450 cases in all of America. They've been giving these people steroids and that works. Standard for respiratory infection. It causes lipid buildup in the lungs which make you more prone to infection. It's not a new phenomenon. We also see it in people who eat lots of essential oils.
Meanwhile smoking kills about 480,000 Americans every year and 1,300 every day. Smoking just doesn't cause the oil buildup, it causes physical damage which lead to infection. And cancer, obviously.
Also I don't really trust the FDA's assessments. They also said Crouton killed people but if you look at the actual medical reports some of them included things like gunshot wounds or multiple other drugs in the toxicology report, yet they somehow attributed it to Crouton. Even the DEA said it was bullshit. The FDA later rescinded some of these claims but not all. The only real risk with Crouton is heavy metal poisoning and salmonella, which has actually been proven.
Not to mention Crouton literally does not cause respiratory depression due to lack of recruitment at beta-2-arrestin which is believed to be responsible for respiratory suppression in every other opioid.
It's all just bullshit, and you are a sheep if you actually believe e-cigarettes are some danger that needs to be stopped dead in its tracks. It is still a MUCH safer alternative to cigarettes. -
2019-09-12 at 1:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by G4LM Lol what? Yeah we do. 6 deaths and 450 cases in all of America. They've been giving these people steroids and that works. Standard for respiratory infection. It causes lipid buildup in the lungs which make you more prone to infection. It's not a new phenomenon. We also see it in people who eat lots of essential oils.
Meanwhile smoking kills about 480,000 Americans every year and 1,300 every day. Smoking just doesn't cause the oil buildup, it causes physical damage which lead to infection. And cancer, obviously.
Also I don't really trust the FDA's assessments. They also said Crouton killed people but if you look at the actual medical reports some of them included things like gunshot wounds or multiple other drugs in the toxicology report, yet they somehow attributed it to Crouton. Even the DEA said it was bullshit. The FDA later rescinded some of these claims but not all. The only real risk with Crouton is heavy metal poisoning and salmonella, which has actually been proven.
Not to mention Crouton literally does not cause respiratory depression due to lack of recruitment at beta-2-arrestin which is believed to be responsible for respiratory suppression in every other opioid.
It's all just bullshit, and you are a sheep if you actually believe e-cigarettes are some danger that needs to be stopped dead in its tracks. It is still a MUCH safer alternative to cigarettes.
Sources? -
2019-09-12 at 1:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke Sources?
Link to respiratory infection and pneumonia
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1049661
Smoking deaths
https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fast_facts/index.htm
Crouton bullshit
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18FhvMcUxLsLoFNE8APPOuw-n2DpeJ_QG/view
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2019-09-12 at 1:50 PM UTCQuote from first link:
Your lungs were designed to inhale air, Kalhan said, not vapor. The idea that vaping could “enhance our susceptibility to viruses is really scary,” he added.
Sounds like it's really scary and we should do everything we can to hit the brakes and study it more. -
2019-09-12 at 1:58 PM UTC
Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke Quote from first link:
Sounds like it's really scary and we should do everything we can to hit the brakes and study it more.
So you admit to the fact that you were wrong about us not knowing why people are getting sick? Or do you just want to soak up in scare tactic media wording? Because I'm more interested in the objective truth than what some dude interviewed by nbc has to say about it.
Also lets ignore the fact that two of the deaths were from oil carts. Because fuck consistency yeah? -
2019-09-12 at 2:20 PM UTC
Originally posted by frala Weren't you eating the fucking cotton? I vape nicotine and THC and don't ever have an issue. Some fucking people's kids.
Mo wonder your memory is shot.
No, I was not "eating the cotton", I was inhaling it like every other vaper but not pretending like that is harmless.
Again, §m£ÂgØL, why are there no vapes where it's just nicotine being vaped? -
2019-09-12 at 2:28 PM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood they are for men that choose their destiny. You let people choose your destiny for you. You rule-following loser thats why you will always be a nobody
lmao how ironic because you literally are someone who's entire life has been spent trying to follow the leader and serve your oligarchs.
I am the only person here who actually follows their own destiny and you all make fun of me for it.