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Do rainbows exist objectively?
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2019-09-11 at 2:30 AM UTCI have spent my life seeking all that's still unseen, bent my ear to hear the tune and closed my eyes to see.
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2019-09-11 at 2:31 AM UTC
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2019-09-11 at 2:45 AM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe Every subjective experience has an objective cause. Wavelengths of light do not become colour until they enter your eye and are interpreted by your brain. Or maybe I'm wrong and the world is full of tastes no tongue can know and lights no eye can see and when there was no ear to hear, you sang to me.
Right, every subjective experience has an objective cause, so the usual cause of the subjective experiences of perceiving a rainbow is the objective refraction of light in a certain pattern, AKA: a rainbow. -
2019-09-11 at 2:56 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny Right, every subjective experience has an objective cause, so the usual cause of the subjective experiences of perceiving a rainbow is the objective refraction of light in a certain pattern, AKA: a rainbow.
The appearance of a pattern is part of the subjective experience. The objective cause is light. -
2019-09-11 at 4:20 AM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe The appearance of a pattern is part of the subjective experience.
I never said anything about the appearance of a pattern.The objective cause is light.
Only light refracting in a certain way, not all lay. The objective phenomenon which serves as the objective cause of the perception of rainbows is commonly called... a rainbow -
2019-09-11 at 4:29 AM UTCI'm the only one who can see both regular wavelengths of light as well as fleshlights
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2019-09-11 at 5:29 AM UTCstomach ulcer pulsates gently
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2019-09-11 at 5:37 AM UTC
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2019-09-11 at 6:46 AM UTC
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2019-09-11 at 6:51 AM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe Every subjective experience has an objective cause. Wavelengths of light do not become colour until they enter your eye and are interpreted by your brain. Or maybe I'm wrong and the world is full of tastes no tongue can know and lights no eye can see and when there was no ear to hear, you sang to me.
not true.
many people can tell their foods or drinks taste like shit despite having no prior experiences of tasting shits. -
2019-09-11 at 6:53 AM UTC
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2019-09-11 at 6:58 AM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny down to 2 words actually.
syndrome, and stockholm.
more directly, the majority of people in HK harbour some degree of anti-mainland sentiment, meaning that the police likely do too to some degree. Directly targeting the police with violent attacks and treating them as enemies just hastens the PLA coming in, and they will NOT treat the rioters with the kid gloves that the police have. -
2019-09-11 at 7:03 AM UTC
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2019-09-11 at 7:05 AM UTCkek
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2019-09-11 at 7:12 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra more directly, the majority of people in HK harbour some degree of anti-mainland sentiment, meaning that the police likely do too to some degree. Directly targeting the police with violent attacks and treating them as enemies just hastens the PLA coming in, and they will NOT treat the rioters with the kid gloves that the police have.
i think the china side is playing all this wrong.
they should just ignore the protestors and let their carnage went rampant and free and destroy hong kong economy in the process.
anyway the thing is that after 100years of whitemens rule those hongkees have developed white fever they would rather be chinks ruled by white, anglo men than by elites of their own kind. -
2019-09-11 at 7:15 AM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny i think the china side is playing all this wrong.
they should just ignore the protestors and let their carnage went rampant and free and destroy hong kong economy in the process.
that's actually more or less what they're doing... to an extent. They don't really need HK economically anymore, but it can't be allowed to be turned into a US/UK military base so they can't just sit back and watch it burn either -
2019-09-11 at 7:19 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra that's actually more or less what they're doing… to an extent. They don't really need HK economically anymore, but it can't be allowed to be turned into a US/UK military base so they can't just sit back and watch it burn either
i wished they would just let the protestors seize the airport for weeks.
thats the right thing to do. -
2019-09-11 at 12:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra but it can't be allowed to be turned into a US/UK military base so they can't just sit back and watch it burn either
How is that even on the tabl in your head? There is no room in Hong Kong for a military base. It's all water, mountains, and civilization. Look at a topographic map and compare it to a road map. All the livable areas are mostly settled.
This is ignoring the political fallout of such a thing. It would never happen. -
2019-09-11 at 1:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by G4LM How is that even on the tabl in your head? There is no room in Hong Kong for a military base. It's all water, mountains, and civilization. Look at a topographic map and compare it to a road map. All the livable areas are mostly settled.
This is ignoring the political fallout of such a thing. It would never happen.
I was mostly thinking of a political base, not sure why I wrote military. That said I'm sure a large naval base is possible -
2019-09-11 at 3:50 PM UTCHong Kong protests are an optical illusion.
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