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2019-08-16 at 12:18 PM UTC
Originally posted by Narc you know retards like you really don't help our side at all, you make the rest of us look bad. you should just have another hit, nod off and shutup. leave it to those of us users that have a brain to argue the cause.
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I am the most responsible opiate user ever. I do heroin once a year and i've tried pretty much every opiate that exists.
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2019-08-16 at 12:28 PM UTC
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2019-08-16 at 12:39 PM UTCBy far, nicotine is the best thing I ever gave up.
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2019-08-16 at 12:41 PM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood I am the most responsible opiate user ever. I do heroin once a year and i've tried pretty much every opiate that exists.
I just never get addicted, drug addiction is nothing but a public confession of personal impotence.
Well I guess you're better than the rest of the human population. Everyone should react to the drug like you do, I suppose. if This isn't short-sighted, narrow-minded thinking, I don't know what is. -
2019-08-16 at 12:48 PM UTC
Originally posted by Narc i don't inject, i only vape heroin on foil. overdose isn't an issue for me.
see this is why you shouldn't be having this argument, because you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. there is a huge difference to smoking and injecting heroin. but this isn't a fact the tv will ever tell you.
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And you’ve been using that method since day one?
The point is that while heroin may not directly cause brain damage itself, it can have an impact on physiological functions, indirectly causing brain damage. So at some point in your (I’m assuming) 20 year heroin use you’ve most likely experienced some form of minor brain damage, just as any other drug/alcohol user has. To think that you haven’t is...narcissistic lol. -
2019-08-16 at 1:10 PM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood I am the most responsible opiate user ever. I do heroin once a year and i've tried pretty much every opiate that exists.
I just never get addicted, drug addiction is nothing but a public confession of personal impotence.
wow, once a year? that's extremely cautious. i keep it to fortmightly, or once a week at most, that's works fine for me.
i think this guy has a couple of good points about addiction here.
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2019-08-16 at 1:31 PM UTC
Originally posted by frala And you’ve been using that method since day one?
The point is that while heroin may not directly cause brain damage itself, it can have an impact on physiological functions, indirectly causing brain damage. So at some point in your (I’m assuming) 20 year heroin use you’ve most likely experienced some form of minor brain damage, just as any other drug/alcohol user has. To think that you haven’t is…narcissistic lol.
impossible to say as heroin isn't the only drug i've ever used. however i've never overdosed on heroin so there has never been a time where my brain has been oxygen starved by using it. and as heroin is known to be non-tissue toxic its unlikely i have any brain damage, nor any organ damage, because of it.
you would actually be surprised just how healthy i am, i'm certainly healthier than the average 46 year old. and considering i've used heroin for almost 25 years, a lot of that as a daily habitual user, as well as a cigerette smoker for 35 years. i also had a few years using crack heavily, and used ecstasy, speed, lsd and pot when i was younger. i've rarely been to see a doctor because i never really have the need to. personally i attribute this mostly to the fact i am completely teetotal and have been since i was 21. i also use very little salt in my meals.
see this is where most people go wrong, they look at what the media portrays as a 'heroin addict' and don't realize the people they always show you using that label, although are heroin addicts, they are always the worse junkies around. the ones that as well as using heroin will at the same time also be terrible alcoholics, as well as regularly using crack, benzos, pregabs, methadone and any other drug or tablet they can get their hands on. and those types spend so much of their time either being high or seeking more drugs to be high that they rarely bother to do the normal shit you need to take care of yourself like washing, eating, exercising and keeping a good check on your personal health. those are the things that mostly contribute to a junkies poor state of health yet you have the media reporting as tho the heroin is what is largely responsible. we've all been getting told this our whole lives, so much so that most people just see it as fact and never question it.
i genuinely believe that alcohol is far more damaging to human health than heroin is, and i'm pretty sure i'm a prime example to prove this fact.
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2019-08-16 at 1:47 PM UTC
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2019-08-16 at 2:01 PM UTC
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2019-08-16 at 2:02 PM UTCRight so just to clarify I’m not going off of what the media portrays. I have friends who have dealt with heroin addiction, meth addiction, addiction in general. And I’ve dealt with my own substance abuse issues. The only point I was trying to make was that heroin can in fact lead to brain damage, albeit indirectly. It is a contributing factor whether you want to admit it or not. Sure there are other drugs and substances that are toxic and will damage your body at a much quicker rate, but the fact still remains.
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2019-08-16 at 2:04 PM UTCi never said i was 'one of the brainy ones'. i said 'those of us who have a brain'. that's not claiming to be some kind of genius, it just means those of us who are not complete retards is all.
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2019-08-16 at 2:16 PM UTCI'm high on heroin y'all and I've never felt smarter
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2019-08-16 at 2:20 PM UTC
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2019-08-16 at 2:21 PM UTCI'll probly be higher then.
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2019-08-16 at 2:27 PM UTCIt's funny how even Wiki hides the fact that Tylenol is mixed with an opiate, codeine (15mg). Even the generic Tylenol has 8mg codeine in it. They don't want people to know.
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2019-08-16 at 2:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by frala Right so just to clarify I’m not going off of what the media portrays. I have friends who have dealt with heroin addiction, meth addiction, addiction in general. And I’ve dealt with my own substance abuse issues. The only point I was trying to make was that heroin can in fact lead to brain damage, albeit indirectly. It is a contributing factor whether you want to admit it or not. Sure there are other drugs and substances that are toxic and will damage your body at a much quicker rate, but the fact still remains.
but its irrelevant, lots of things could cause brain damage indirectly. water could cause brain damage indirectly if i held your head under it for a few minutes. having too much salt in your diet could cause brain damage too.
the fact is that a big deal is made of heroin because people can overdose on it. but you can overdose on every substance that exists. to use the potential of overdose as a reason to say heroin is bad is total propaganda. especially when it is the external factor known as prohibition that is creating the conditions that make it far more likely that anyone using heroin will overdose. if users had a way to know the exact amount of heroin they were using every time there is no reason for them to overdose.
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2019-08-16 at 2:33 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL It's funny how even Wiki hides the fact that Tylenol is mixed with an opiate, codeine (15mg). Even the generic Tylenol has 8mg codeine in it. They don't want people to know.
vicodin and percocets also has tylenol in it. but not all tylenol contains opiates. you're talking about co-codomol there you idiot. you can get just tylenol just about anywhere.
the reason they put tylenol in over the counter opiates is to prevent people from abusing the opiates. this is what i mean why tylenol is more dangerous than heroin. it says a lot when they are using tylenol to make opiates too dangerous to take in anything more than a lower dose.
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2019-08-16 at 2:45 PM UTC
Originally posted by Narc vicodin and percocets also has tylenol in it. but not all tylenol contains opiates. you're talking about co-codomol there you idiot. you can get just tylenol just about anywhere.
the reason they put tylenol in over the counter opiates is to prevent people from abusing the opiates. this is what i mean why tylenol is more dangerous than heroin. it says a lot when they are using tylenol to make opiates too dangerous to take in anything more than a lower dose.
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Tylenol with codeine and Tylenol without codeine are both sold under the brand name Tylenol, with no differentiation between the two, except for the small print on the bottle. -
2019-08-16 at 2:59 PM UTC
Originally posted by Narc but its irrelevant, lots of things could cause brain damage indirectly. water could cause brain damage indirectly if i held your head under it for a few minutes. having too much salt in your diet could cause brain damage too.
the fact is that a big deal is made of heroin because people can overdose on it. but you can overdose on every substance that exists. to use the potential of overdose as a reason to say heroin is bad is total propaganda. especially when it is the external factor known as prohibition that is creating the conditions that make it far more likely that anyone using heroin will overdose. if users had a way to know the exact amount of heroin they were using every time there is no reason for them to overdose.
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No what’s irrelevant is everything you just listed to talk yourself in circles.
Here’s the statement:
A. Heroin can’t cause brain damage
B. Yes it can and here’s how...
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2019-08-16 at 3:18 PM UTC*smoked cigarette while reading this thread*