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2019-08-10 at 6:40 PM UTCThat was one possibility I mentioned in the previous thread... Why though? it doesn't make sense. I find myself asking 'why would he do that' (from a practical standpoint) about virtually every aspect of the incident
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2019-08-10 at 7:11 PM UTCYeah idk, like why would he bring like 20 guns, it's all strange. But if he brought 20 guns of the same type I really don't find it strange that he has different kinds of ammo that they all can fire.
Maybe he just couldn't pick favourites? Heavier bois vs faster bois. -
2019-08-10 at 7:35 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra That was one possibility I mentioned in the previous thread… Why though? it doesn't make sense. I find myself asking 'why would he do that' (from a practical standpoint) about virtually every aspect of the incident
So, theoretically, let's say the official story is a total lie. What does that mean? What does that say about the government's and local police force's involvement? -
2019-08-10 at 10:56 PM UTC
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2019-08-11 at 12:24 AM UTC
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2019-08-11 at 12:32 AM UTC
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2019-08-12 at 4:17 AM UTC
Originally posted by Common De-mominator Watch my previously linked video.
The same gun can fire different cartridges that have a huge range of different velocities. If he really had multiple of the same platform gun, it would be really easy to see him having 2 guns of the same type loaded with different ammo that has different speeds…
but the interval between the two bursts were so short he'd have to be twin wielding to be able to do it.
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2019-08-12 at 2:40 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny but the interval between the two bursts were so short he'd have to be twin wielding to be able to do it.
Again, out of all the possibilities, I favour the simplest explanation: simply firing at 2 different angles, meaning both sets of bursts have different flight times, meaning different intervals between shot and impact.
The angular difference doesn't even need to be that great to make a significant difference in flight time if you account for gravity.
In any case, the "ballistics expert" is not any sort of scientist or engineer or anything. He is a pill peddler retard who scares retards on InfoWars and sells them anti apocalypse supplements, and he grossly overinterpreted the data to sell pills to conspiracy retards again. -
2019-08-12 at 2:49 PM UTCAll you need is one bullet and the two resulting sounds it makes to calculate the distance between the firing of the bullet and the impact of the bullet.
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2019-08-12 at 4:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke Again, out of all the possibilities, I favour the simplest explanation: simply firing at 2 different angles, meaning both sets of bursts have different flight times, meaning different intervals between shot and impact.
The angular difference doesn't even need to be that great to make a significant difference in flight time if you account for gravity.
In any case, the "ballistics expert" is not any sort of scientist or engineer or anything. He is a pill peddler retard who scares retards on InfoWars and sells them anti apocalypse supplements, and he grossly overinterpreted the data to sell pills to conspiracy retards again.
no, the effects of gravity will be constant on all bullets and at the rate those bullets were travelling, a delay of .2 second will mean hundreds of feets. -
2019-08-12 at 5:09 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny no, the effects of gravity will be constant on all bullets and at the rate those bullets were travelling, a delay of .2 second will mean hundreds of feets.
The effect of gravity will be constant to provide a downward force so you're right it won't give any extra airtime unless the gun is positively angled. But the distance travelled will still be different because the forward vector depends on the angle.
And a difference of hundreds of feet is the difference between aiming at the nearest to furthest part of the venue. You don't need that much of an angular difference to get a difference of hundreds of feet. Or who says it was even intentional? It's even possible he just straightened up when pulling the gun back for the next bump fire burst. -
2019-08-12 at 5:32 PM UTC
Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke The effect of gravity will be constant to provide a downward force so you're right it won't give any extra airtime unless the gun is positively angled. But the distance travelled will still be different because the forward vector depends on the angle.
And a difference of hundreds of feet is the difference between aiming at the nearest to furthest part of the venue. You don't need that much of an angular difference to get a difference of hundreds of feet. Or who says it was even intentional? It's even possible he just straightened up when pulling the gun back for the next bump fire burst.
so lacking this much data we can only speculate.
we dont know where did he hit, how many gun he used, how he shot, what types of guns he had etc etc. -
2019-08-12 at 6:12 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny so lacking this much data we can only speculate.
we dont know where did he hit, how many gun he used, how he shot, what types of guns he had etc etc.
Yeah I agree, like I said, all we have is 1 mic and 2 sets of intervals, there could be an infinite numbers of factors that can produce the given data that are more reasonable than multiple shooters. -
2019-08-12 at 6:16 PM UTC
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2019-08-12 at 6:30 PM UTC
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2019-08-12 at 7:04 PM UTC
Originally posted by Rear Naked Joke Yeah I agree, like I said, all we have is 1 mic and 2 sets of intervals, there could be an infinite numbers of factors that can produce the given data that are more reasonable than multiple shooters.
Not true. All we need is a single report on a single microphone to calculate the distance of the shooter. In this case we have two reports at different frequencies on a single microphone, which is enough to calculate the distance of at least two shooters. All the quack and babble in the world can't change that fact. -
2019-08-12 at 8:35 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL Not true. All we need is a single report on a single microphone to calculate the distance of the shooter. In this case we have two reports at different frequencies on a single microphone, which is enough to calculate the distance of at least two shooters. All the quack and babble in the world can't change that fact.
No, you are incorrect and I've extensively explained why. Go kill yourself faggot. -
2019-08-12 at 11:35 PM UTC
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2019-08-13 at 12:14 AM UTCI don't know what yall are arguing about, but it's possible to localize a sound source with only one microphone. Not the easiest thing to do, but it's entirely possible.
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2019-08-13 at 12:15 AM UTC
Originally posted by park police I don't know what yall are arguing about, but it's possible to localize a sound source with only one microphone. Not the easiest thing to do, but it's entirely possible.
Especially when that sound source is unique and has an accompanying echo. These are all disinfo agents.