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2019-07-28 at 2:11 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker Literally every economist predicted in 2016 that Trump's election would spell economic doom of biblical proportions in the US. So yeah…Economists…
this isn't even close to true. You're just trying to equate brexit to Trump because you're old stupid and useless and like to be part of things you don't know anything about
Originally posted by Common De-mominator The real reason why Brexit is a thing is because they don't like brown people.
Which, fair enough.
But exiting the EU because of that is just monumentally retarded. Oh well. I hope in 10 years when the UK industry has been motherfucked to shit right in the asshole because they still have to trade with the EU but now have no say… They remember that day as the day that Britain's arrogance left them in the dust of the great European experiment.
its comical when they don't have an empire or any say in really anything in the world they want to act holier than thou. Britain seems go go through periods like this like Margaret thatchers rolling back social programs and unions in the 80s and that worked kinda well because she had Frederick Hayek helping her. It was obviously not sustainable though and thus people thought a little harder and worked out something better
Now they made a dumb decision based on knee jerk reactionary information and the whole world knows fucking Greeks are smarter and better with their money than Brits and they have the balls to actually kick brown people out instead of just nicely telling them the country is full
I find it hard to believe even one person thinks Brexit is a good idea when they're provided with enough information to actually understand what it means -
2019-07-28 at 2:33 PM UTC
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2019-07-28 at 3:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo this isn't even close to true.
ORLY
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/business/dealbook/what-happens-to-the-markets-if-donald-trump-wins.html
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/donald-trump-wall-street-effect-markets-230164
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/krugman-trump-global-recession-2016-231055
https://money.cnn.com/2016/10/10/news/economy/trump-us-stocks-fall/index.html
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-stock-market-could-crash-if-donald-trump-is-elected-2016-10-31
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/05/donald-trumps-economy/481743/
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/100-risk-of-a-50-stock-crash-if-donald-trump-wins-nomination-2015-09-04
https://www.economist.com/free-exchange/2016/11/09/the-economic-consequences-of-donald-trump
https://fortune.com/2016/11/08/donald-trump-stocks-crash/
https://www.theguardian.com/business/us-money-blog/2016/nov/07/investors-fear-president-donald-trump-economy-volatility-recession
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/column-stock-market-doesnt-like-idea-trump-presidency
“It really does now look like President Donald J. Trump, and markets are plunging. When might we expect them to recover? A first-pass answer is never… So we are very probably looking at a global recession, with no end in sight.” — Paul Krugman of the New York Times the day after the election.
Under Trump, I would expect a protracted recession to begin within 18 months. The damage would be felt far beyond the United States.” — Former Clinton and Obama chief economist Larry Summers, June 2016
Trump would likely cause the stock market to crash and plunge the world into recession.” —Simon Johnson, MIT economics professor, in The New York Times, November 2016.
Citigroup: A Trump Victory in November Could Cause a Global Recession” — Bloomberg Financial News headline, August 2016.
“I have never seen an election in which the markets have so strong of a view as to what was good and bad about the outcome. And what you saw was the markets rallying yesterday because of the FBI thing on Sunday. And the reason I mention this particularly is if the likely event happens and Trump wins you will see a market crash of historic proportions, I think … The markets are terrified of him.” — Steve Rattner, MSNBC economic guru, October 2016.
Wall Street is set up for a major crash if Donald Trump shocks the world on Election Day and wins the White House. New research out on Friday suggests that financial markets strongly prefer a Hillary Clinton presidency and could react with panicked selling should Trump defy the polls and deliver a shocking upset on Nov. 8.” — Ben White, Politico, October 2016.
A President Trump Could Destroy the World Economy” — Title of a Washington Post editorial, October 2016 -
2019-07-28 at 3:53 PM UTC
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2019-07-28 at 3:57 PM UTC
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2019-07-28 at 5:08 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker Look above you moron
Nope. All I see is abject failure to establish your claim, which is at minimum strong consensus:
Originally posted by Speedy Parker Literally every economist
Since you're trying to reject the actual consensus on the subject of Brexit
https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/economists-views-brexit -
2019-07-28 at 5:13 PM UTCTo be clear: quoting some liberal economists doesn't discredit economics nor economists et al. There are probably more ideologically conservative economists than liberal ones. Brexit is not a case of some lib jéw economists saying it.
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2019-07-28 at 5:22 PM UTChttps://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/nov/28/donald-trump-economic-consequences-us-election-growth
article from economist predicting positive domestic growth and trouble brought on by his stupid tariff talk
I found one in 2 second therefore your argument is void.
Trump inherited a growing economy and a bull market and apart from trying to implement big business friendly tactics, has only done things to harm it -
2019-07-28 at 6:02 PM UTC
Originally posted by Common De-mominator To be clear: quoting some liberal economists doesn't discredit economics nor economists et al. There are probably more ideologically conservative economists than liberal ones. Brexit is not a case of some lib jéw economists saying it.
just because we are trading partners doesnt mean i can dicktate who can and cant go into your house and the means they wish to do it. -
2019-07-28 at 9:32 PM UTC
Originally posted by Common De-mominator Nope. All I see is abject failure to establish your claim, which is at minimum strong consensus:
Since you're trying to reject the actual consensus on the subject of Brexit
https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/economists-views-brexit
Wrong -
2019-07-28 at 9:35 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny just because we are trading partners doesnt mean i can dicktate who can and cant go into your house and the means they wish to do it.
How are you still not understanding this my dude:
They can dictate whatever terms they want to stay trading within the EU. Member nations voluntarily abide by the regulations because they want to keep being part of the EU and trading inside it, because it is so beneficial.
The argument is not whether or not Britain has a right to fuck off, they can exit whenever they can get their shit together. The question is whether fucking off is a good idea for Britain, which I have yet to receive one god damn good argument in favour of. -
2019-07-28 at 9:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by Common De-mominator How are you still not understanding this my dude:
They can dictate whatever terms they want to stay trading within the EU. Member nations voluntarily abide by the regulations because they want to keep being part of the EU and trading inside it, because it is so beneficial.
The argument is not whether or not Britain has a right to fuck off, they can exit whenever they can get their shit together. The question is whether fucking off is a good idea for Britain, which I have yet to receive one god damn good argument in favour of.
No argument is a good argument to you unless it agrees with you. -
2019-07-28 at 10:24 PM UTC
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2019-07-29 at 5:10 PM UTC
Originally posted by Common De-mominator How are you still not understanding this my dude:
They can dictate whatever terms they want to stay trading within the EU. Member nations voluntarily abide by the regulations because they want to keep being part of the EU and trading inside it, because it is so beneficial.
The argument is not whether or not Britain has a right to fuck off, they can exit whenever they can get their shit together. The question is whether fucking off is a good idea for Britain, which I have yet to receive one god damn good argument in favour of.
no u.
its you who doesnt understand the essence of this 'agreement'.
when it involves more than just dictating the terms and conditions of trade and merchandizes and intrudes into your internal afairs,
then it already ceases to be a trade deal and had metastasized into something else.
like a reich for example. (not that i know what that word means) -
2019-07-29 at 5:13 PM UTC
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2019-07-29 at 5:54 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny no u.
its you who doesnt understand the essence of this 'agreement'.
when it involves more than just dictating the terms and conditions of trade and merchandizes and intrudes into your internal afairs,
then it already ceases to be a trade deal and had metastasized into something else.
like a reich for example. (not that i know what that word means)
I have a cool club (similar to the Lion's Club) with a dress code, a regular financial commitment and code of conduct... Excluding you from the club and its benefits isn't force any which way.
The entire point of the club is to render its benefits through cooperation, why would they give those benefits to those who do not cooperate?
This is literally Britain wanting to be the lazy nigger of Europe and get the same benefits while doing none of the work. Surprise, the rest of Europe is laughing in their face. -
2019-07-29 at 7:11 PM UTC
Originally posted by Common De-mominator I have a cool club (similar to the Lion's Club) with a dress code, a regular financial commitment and code of conduct… Excluding you from the club and its benefits isn't force any which way.
The entire point of the club is to render its benefits through cooperation, why would they give those benefits to those who do not cooperate?
This is literally Britain wanting to be the lazy nigger of Europe and get the same benefits while doing none of the work. Surprise, the rest of Europe is laughing in their face.
what club is that and
does it tell you to relinquish the control of your gates ? -
2019-07-29 at 7:13 PM UTC
Originally posted by Common De-mominator I have a cool club (similar to the Lion's Club) with a dress code, a regular financial commitment and code of conduct… Excluding you from the club and its benefits isn't force any which way.
The entire point of the club is to render its benefits through cooperation, why would they give those benefits to those who do not cooperate?
This is literally Britain wanting to be the lazy nigger of Europe and get the same benefits while doing none of the work. Surprise, the rest of Europe is laughing in their face.
Does this club dictate who can come to your home? -
2019-07-29 at 7:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny what club is that and
does it tell you to relinquish the control of your gates ?
If you don't want to relinquish control of your gates, don't join the club. How is it anyone else's fault that the club is so awesome that everyone wants in? Why should the EU and it's member nations be FORCED to trade with you at the rates they give each other? It's like saying you can't give a friend's and family discount at your business.